The Cellular Map
A much clearer picture has been emerging over the last couple of weeks since the Preliminary Hearing of Charles Ray Merritt.
Namely, his whereabouts and activities from February 4-8th.
Consider this timeline.
February 4
5:47 PM – Joseph McStay calls Chase Merritt. It’s the last call where they actually conversed. Is this where McStay confronted Merritt? Did he tell him he was going to Police?
5:48 Merritt’s Phone is turned off or disabled until 9:32, at which time it pings in Mira Loma.
7:47 PM The neighbor’s surveillance camera picks up what could be Merritt’s truck. Identifying feature:Tailpipe on passenger side of truck; McStay’s Trooper tailpipe is located on the left.
Chase Merritt, for whatever reason, told detectives it takes him exactly one hour to drive to McStay’s house in Fallbrook. This leaves him one hour to brutally murder the family (which probably happened over a matter of minutes) and load them into his truck.
During this time lapse, Cathy Jarvis calls Chase 5 times, obviously trying to get a hold of him, not knowing where he is at.
February 5
7 AM – 3:54 PM Merritt’s phone pings starting in Upland (next to Rancho Cucamonga), then San Clarita, San Fernando and ending in Rancho Cucamonga.
3:54 PM – 9:17 PM Merritt’s phone is yet again turned off. 3 hours 24 minutes.
Drive time from Rancho Cucamonga to Quarry Road, Victorville: 50 minutes
Giving Merrit the same drive time back to RC, that leaves 1 hour 24 minutes to kill. Or bury.
February 6
1:46 AM – 1:30 PM Meritt’s phone pings 6 times in Victorville and Oro Grande area. 5 of those pings originating from the same cell tower.
Merritt called or attempted to call his girlfriend’s number 3 times 11:31, 11:34, 11:52 AM. Two other calls were made to another number at 11:32 and 11:33. The number dialed was a Pomona number, right next to RC.
Was this her work number? Why was Chase so desperate to get a hold her? Did it have to do with a debt collector that called Merritt’s phone at 11:30.
Was Chase stuck in the mud? Could that be a reason?
Graves site. Notice the deep ruts near Grave B on the right.
If he was at the graves site, why didn’t he think to turn his phone off then? Over confident??
3:14 PM Merritt’s phone is turned off.
February 7
10:35 AM, 20 hours after Merritt’s phone is shut off, it is turned back on. Where was he and what was he doing for 20 hours?
10:35 AM – 5:17 PM Merrit’s phone pings in Rancho Cucamonga.
February 8
7:36 AM – 1:31 PM Merritt’s phone is again shut off.
1:31 PM Merritt’s pings off a tower in Corona.Several Minutes later, his phone pings off a a tower at the Limonite Avenue and I15 Freeway intersection. He was moving in the opposite direction of Falbrook.
Did Merritt use the 6 hour gap of his phone being off to orchestrate the abandoning of the Trooper at the San Ysidro/Mexico border?
Thanks Cornelius.
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Yes, thanks Cornelius!
I do think it’s rather telling that Chase’s initial alibi for that evening was in fact trying to reach him, and numerous times to no avail.
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Telling that she gave him an alibi at home when, in fact, she knew she was trying to reach him.
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Cornelius you said:
“3:54 PM – 9:17 PM Merritt’s phone is yet again turned off. 3 hours 24 minutes.”
This should read: 5 hrs 24 minutes.
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LOL you’re right, I need to slow down. Thanks.
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You made me remember I forgot to add something very crucial.
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Sorry…this is a little ot, but it carries over from questions asked about Chase possibly being left handed. Here is a
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(Sorry…sent in error con’t…) The CNN special “Chasing a Killer: Inside the McStay Family Murders,”is on youtube by dark redux @ the 25.10 mark, you will see Chase cearly digging into a prospecting hole as someone who is left-handed. You can tell by his stance and where his hand placements are on the shovel handle. I am right handed, and Chases’s are opposite of how I hold a shovel.
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Chase is looking in robust good health too. Hale and hearty enough to work steadily in the heat of mid day.
Its hard for me to watch Chase but i gotta hand it to Randi Kaye,(and LE for their covert surveillance), she is such a good interviewer. Chase had no idea he walking into by agreeing to be in that show.
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* what he was walking into…
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Yep, he is clearly left handed.
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Why did he leave the phone on when burying the victims? Hmm… good question that has bothered me too, C. Jarvis as a lookout? Doubtful, LE probably looked into that possibility. I’m guessing he forgot or just figured one tower in the area if he even knew that, wasn’t enough to ‘triangulate’ like you hear thrown around in movies and crime shows. One of many mistakes that have been revealed. But in spite of that he almost got away with this it wasn’t for the baby’s skull, like a beacon in the lonely desert.
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Also, the motorcycle guy should get the reward. But it was only a thousand last I read.
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It’s possible he had his phone on silent and forgot he left it on. It could be that simple.
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I think he was more concerned with his phone pinging in Fallbrook than VV, whereas he didn’t think they would be found.
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Excellent point. He did not plan for the bodies to be found, so wasn’t concerned about shutting his phone off. The pings in VV so close to the date of the disappearance are the most damning evidence in my opinion. Do his cell records show he was in Fallbrook when the computer searches were made at the McStay home regarding travel to Mexico?
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Excellent question that I think will be answered at trial.
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14 Q Did you ask Miss Jarvis whether or not the defendant was
15 a person that was typically hard to get ahold of via cell phone?
16 A She said that sometimes he was hard to get ahold of.
17 That he would go to the casino, it could be for up to a couple
18 of days at a time, and if he was at a table, he typically
19 wouldn’t answer his phone.
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Cellphones are tattle-tales in our pockets!
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See, I bet little boy Chase spent his whole life blaming, and foisting responsibility onto, the women in his life. His sisters and mom and aunties and girlfriends.
He was probably very cheesed off about having to defer to the bosses wife. I’m thinking he didn’t like that one little bit.
Q Did you note something interesting in the course of the
interview about the amount of detail the defendant was able to
give you about February 4th?
A Yes, sir.
Q And what was that?
A Mr. Merritt was able to recall, have a good recollection
of everything that occurred from the time he got up in the
morning, until approximately 1700 hours. After 1700 hours he
didn’t recall, basically, anything that occurred. And he
indicated that his best recollection of anything after that
would have been off Jarvis’s memory.
Q Catherine Jarvis?
A Yes.
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Why is Baker so hell bent on believing that Blanche wasn’t at the Fallbrook house on the 19th? Does he think McGuyver is lying too? Hell, this article proves Blanche was at the Fallbrook house the weekend of the 19th. Or does he believe the reporter made it up?
Posted: Feb 22, 2010 3:53 PM EST
SAN DIEGO, Calif. (CBS 8) – There’s still no sign of a family from Fallbrook that has been missing for almost two weeks.
Joseph and Summer McStay were last seen with their two kids earlier this month. Investigators found their car at the border. So far, there haven’t been any solid leads.
In the meantime, Summer’s family searched the McStays’ home over the weekend trying to turn up clues.
“I can’t imagine where they are… I have no ideas. Where they would go?” Summer’s mother Blanche Aranda said.
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Tsk. Those pesky facts again. Logic and facts have no influence on his blog.
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He hates, absolutely hates being wrong, especially if it confirms that the extended family wasn’t involved in the crimes.
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Corn:
Regarding your conversations with the sister, is there anything you feel comfortable in sharing? For instance, does she think Merritt killed the family? Did he act alone? Did he tell her anything that might incriminate him? You said also that a-hole is trying to involve her so I’m wondering if he indicated to her if he truly believes Merritt is innocent or is it part of his game? I personally think he’s pretending to support Merritt to further his own agendas. Thanks, Corn!
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Oh that message wasn’t between Norma and myself, someone else. There is more to come on that.
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Something I’ve been pondering for a while now regarding Baker’s game of pin the tail on the perp. What if the dream team is asking him to float the various scenarios to see what might fly and what might need some tweaking? I have a difficult time believing that one person can be so bipolar with their opinions, if that makes sense.
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Yep. I think they have occasionally sent people here too.
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But I also think Baker’s a loony bipolar nut-bar too! Haha
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Agreed, Sylvia! Nutbar = understatement!
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*Sorry, I meant Fran
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I have a hard time believing that they could be taken in by him after reading his blog.
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For anyone who may be waffling on whether one person could have perpetrated this horrendous crime, as well as the clean up, and moving the trooper to the border, the timeline above really puts it all into perspective.
In case ya’ll don’t already know, I have believed in his guilt since his arrest.
While I am not the greatest at putting my thoughts into words, I do try to keep up with everyone here. It is a pleasure reading everyone’s thoughts and theories. And ever so often we get going with some humor too.
I wanna know is Ben still out there? Didn’t you buy that engagement ring? She did say YES, right? So maybe you are on an extended honeymoon??
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Timekeeper, I have also believed in Merritt’s guilt since his arrest. I have no problem believing a cold blooded killer could have done this all on his own.
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I agree, Timekeeper. He had more than enough time.
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It is interesting that Chase printed out all the checks he typed up, even the one for 0 dollars, before he deleted them. But the check typed on the 4th at Joey’s house was just typed and deleted – no printing of it. That’s really damning. So much for that crazy story of his that he and Joey were doing this to keep Dan in the dark.
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I wonder why he didn’t print it off. No paper or the printer was busted or out of ink?
Why take the the time to type in, then delete a check, but not create it? Especially after having just massacred an entire family. I don’t get it.
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Typing a check for 4,000 to himself in small letters and not printing It is almost like leaving a note I did it – charles merritt.
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ABC. It really is. I think he was trying so hard to prove Joey was alive at that time – calling himself from Joey’s phone and creating a check.
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Plus he cut a check and delivered it to the business acting as if he was doing it on behalf of Joey.
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I found the discussion with other people about Chase’s role in the business interesting too. He even tried to make himself out to have a bigger role than what he did. That he contracted Metro for Joey. David at Metro set LE straight that he and Joseph had the partnership, not Chase.
I sense some resentment possibly.
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Lots of envy and resentment.
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It sure is!
I wonder if he was in an absolute panic, and wasn’t thinking clearly. If the time stamp on the video is accurate, he may have started to drive away, then remembered the check he needed for part of his plan. Parked and returned to the house, but still being addled, he hits the delete button before he hits the print….
I think LE call it
“Doing the Full Tilt Boogie”. Its the emotional response that happens to someone after they commit murder. This is supposedly when killers are most likely to make glaring mistakes.
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That is such a good point to make, Fran. He had ust slaughtered two innocent children and their parents. I think he was running on a crazy amount of adrenaline.
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I think when Merritt got into Joey’s QB accounts he felt like a kid in a candy store.
The thought of him sitting at Joey’s computer that night after he murdered them makes me sick to my stomach.
The death penalty was created for monsters like him.
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I’m still not clear on what he wanted to do exactly with the QB? He wanted the customer svc rep to merge the Custom and Contact accounts together and then delete them? Or he wanted the Custom account merged into some other unknown account (unknown to us) and then the Custom account canceled and deleted?
Did he think no one would notice if both QBs disappeared?
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I think he was trying to get both accounts deleted but I’m not sure why. It doesn’t make sense to me.
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Deleting both accounts deletes all he did (at least for the time being). Wasn’t he trying to delete all his check writing activities? He may not have known there was an activity log.
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That would raise some eyebrows if both QBs disappeared. Guess he was willing to risk it. LE might have focused more on the finances if he had been successful. So possibly not being able to delete them bought him almost 4 years of freedom.
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It seems that way and it worked for him for him until he was arrested. How LE missed all those cashed checks and deleted checks is what is mind boggling since they had the Quickbooks emails.
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Well, what the idiot doesn’t know is there would be a record on his checks even if he deleted the accounts. LE can always find deleted data.
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Here’s a partial quote:
” he wanted to transfer the account to
21 another account, and then once it was transferred and this
22 subscription was canceled, that he needed to delete all of the
23 accounts.”
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It sounds like Merritt had set up a new account. and he wanted eip custom and contact accts merged, then have the funds of the merged accts transfered to the new account. Once the transfer was complete, the eip qb would be deleted.
That’s my interpretation.
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Could he still continue to drain the money if he did that? Isn’t the money still in Joey’s bank account? I don’t understand how QB works. I just thought it was an accounting tool like an online ledger.
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ABC, you are correct.
The qb wasn’t linked to the bank acct. Maybe he had some scheme worked out for assuming Joey’s electronic id.
I’m not sure how that would work.
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It wouldn’t surprise me if he had a scheme cooked up to keep stealing the money.
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Has it been confirmed that someone did in fact try to order a new QB program or was that a rumor? If true, maybe he thought he could replace the existing accounts and keep siphoning the money somehow. I know how QB works but thankfully my mind doesn’t work like a criminal’s mind.
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I haven’t seen it confirmed. Believe there was an awful lot of confusion about the QBs due to the two sets of them. Whoever was looking at emails might not have realized Joey had 2 accounts.
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He didn’t keep stealing money after Feb. 9?
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We don’t know, Hallie.
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It is easy for to believe that the large figure (was it 90,000) that Gina said Chase owed Joey is true. That email from David at Metro to Joey about the unpaid invoice is going to be one of many examples of Chase screwing Joey out of money.
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Yes, I think we will hear about all the charge-backs, too.
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I think what we learned from the prelim is just the tip of the iceberg. I think there is so much the state held back on and I think we’re in for a few surprises.
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I agree. They only put enough out there to hold him over for trial.
Regarding RB’S blog. It’s hilarious how much they are making from the testimony about the gravesite. It totally sounded to me that he was describing the spots where the earth was concave and obviously looked disturbed and then filled in. They are all on about the graves being dug up and evidence planted.
All because of wording.
Hey Rick. We’re still laughing about the stupidity of your Bakerites. Can’t wait for the pictures of your bald head.
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It’s because he/they have run out of BS ammo to shoot at MM and SB. Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel to cast doubt on Chase’s innocence. Rick would make a good slimeball lawyer. Or a really bad one depending on how you look at it.
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IF it wasn’t for Becky, Rick would be wiping tables and making change in some suburban hell. Cinnabon comes to mind hehehe
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Sorry to jump in without reading all first but are the transcripts posted anywhere now. I saw they were removed from the state vs site, bummed, was saving them for when my kids were doing something.
Thanks
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Caught up and saw why now.
Why is Dick so hell bent on Blanche not being there, it’s really odd as I can’t see how it would fit in his mind.
And the repaired graves? Please, the dirt was removed, bodies placed and dirt returned.
I am so in the dark on how these murders went down. It HAD to have been so messy and There is always something left behind, even teeny tiny blood spots talk.
What happened and where?
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It’s a head scratcher to be sure. I have every confidence the state will be able to lay out a comprehendible and believable case though.
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Bat-shit crazy Diedre’s in the house:
AnonymousJune 27, 2015 at 10:30 PM
Bill Gore goons had hoped for the body to have been found by someone sooner that’s why the graves were soo shallow. They were meant to be found. But with the Chicago trials, the 80,000 pages being released, Benghazi being questioned, the 28 pages movement etc…. They needed this body found. so Bill Gore’s goons went undug a bone or too covered it back up pulling out a few to back it look like animals pull bones out. To increase the chances of it being found. Worked too
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I seriously want some of the mind altering substances she’s consuming. Sure would make tolerating and understanding Baker a whole lot easier. Wow!
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I honestly don’t understand why even “he” would post such “noodle-headed” jibberish. I listened to that woman on the RB podcasts 3x, and still don’t have a clue what she was yammering about! But, then again not much of what goes on over there makes sense either, so at least he’s consistent!
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I do believe it is more than 🍸or 🍷.
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I’m working on my third G&T. 😉
Cheers!!
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Her mind altering drug of choice, is probably just some good ‘ole southern sweet tea, with way…way…way…too much sugar in it!
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Bwwaahaha! I said the same thing when I read that. Lol
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I wonder if she even realizes the bodies were found in a different county? Oh to be Dierdre…
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What a lunatic!!!
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Keep in mind it’s Baker who allows the comments through. Who’s the lunatic?
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“went undug a bone or too covered it back up pulling out a few to back it look like animals pull bones out.”
Becuz they’r was only too bonez pullz outz……….
Also, getting the visual of some SDSD out at the gravesites digging like hungry dogs….making the distinct pattern that scavengers probably make……. Man, those guys are guuuuuuuuuuuddddddddd!!!!
Holla!!- Hyde
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LB, mainly cause Dick is such a dick. But to answer your question, if Blanche is not at the house, then he can continue his harassment of the McStay Family and blame Susan for cleaning up.
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Since the Arandas won’t give him the time of day either, why is he hell bent on crucifying the McStays?
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I wonder that myself. And something else I wonder about. Since RB, was SO wrong in tha booooook, and some of his info came from the ex-con, why doesn’t RB harass the ex-con?
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Ahhh, that makes sense. Can’t believe I didn’t think of that. Thank you.
Dick reminds me of those Scientologists that harass ex members, he clearly knows how to toe the line just so and it lets him attack attack attack, I am really surprised more law suits aren’t filed on him.
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RB cannot tolerate the fact that he has been so wrong about this case. He is just a little man who uses victims of this crime to draw whackjobs into his site.
In my opinion, he is incapable of feeling empathy. When baby-killer Merritt is convicted of these crimes he will continue to try to stir people up but no one will care.
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RB has taken down all the photos of Joey and Summer and replaced them with more photos of the boys on his front page side bar.
I guess he’s going to go back to accusing the parents of being criminals and blame them for death of the boys.
He’s got some biblical quotes up on his banner too, as well as a couple of Christian tweeters that he’s following. But I think that’s just a nod to the baby killers family’s penchant for conducting public prayer circles. I don’t believe for a second that Baker is a serious follower of Christ’s word. He’d probably use the pages for tp if its all that was at hand.
What a freakin’ twisted hypocrite.
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I read in one of the links pertaining to a law suit that politically he is described as” far right”.
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He is with the exception that he thinks drugs should be legal. I listened to a podcast he did with a couple of other conservative radio hosts and that came up in the conversation. His position on drugs, may be due to Colorado making pot legal and all his contacts out there praising the economics of it.
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I would say he is “far out” and not in a good way.
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Speaking of those public prayer circles, I have a feeling those are just a PR stunt by the family. Or worse: praying to a dark power. Merritt’s siblings closest to him are shady looking folks as far as I’m concerned. The brother has a look of foul stench. There’s something reeeal dark about that fella. He thoroughly reeks of it. And the sister looks very cold, in the video from outside the courthouse that day Chase decided to represent himself. She also has that emotionless soft tone of voice, just like Chase. Her hubby and stepson don’t exactly look like winners either. Very dark, unhappy, negative looking people.
I think that whole family has a dark morbid cloud lingering over them. At least the ones who are closest to Chase, anyway. They could all be the cast of the next “The Hills Have Eyes” sequel. Creepy as hell!
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Apparently, Bennett’s son and stepson have some pretty extensive police records and very violent.
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He must be warming up to posting something nasty about them. He is truly a horrible human being.
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I have scoured the transcript front to back and cannot find the following quote yet the boneheads think it’s there. Has anyone else seen it? I think someone is making it up to bolster the claim about grave tampering and evidence planting.
“appeared to be a spot on the grave that had been repaired.”
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RB just loves to keep us busy with his little make work projects. LoL
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I don’t think this quote was part of the testimony. I think it is RB trying to stir things up as usual.
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I did the same thing, no such phrase or even the word repaired in the transcript.
I figured out all the conspiracy nonsense in Deidre’s post from last night except the Chicago trials. Al Capone, LOL? Would makes as much sense as Benghazi, 9/11 and the Saudis mixed up with Bill Gore & the McStays.
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I think poor old Deidre’s tin foil hat must have slipped off her head again.
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‘Chicago Seven’ trial?
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Good question, Hallie. Dierdre seems to live in her own little conspiracy theory world. Her ramblings are nothing short of mind numbing and have nothing whatsoever to do with the McStay family.
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Just Me, I also looked for that quote and the word “tampered” , I didn’t find them either.
I’m sure Rick scurried over to copy and paste the transcripts as soon as they were available on line. He won’t publish them in full for his followers tho. Instead he will dole out selected excerpts that he’s messed with to obscure the truth.
RB is foolish…trying to control the narrative with lies.
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This type of thing was my worst nightmare. The altering of the document. It’s going to be a very tough thing to do with so many of us being in a position now to counter any bogus claims as to its content.
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How do you “repair” a grave, anyway? It’s amazing to me anyone could misconstrue the passage where Sergeant Avila is talking about the appearance of the gravesites. He says there were depressed areas where it looked like something had been taken out and put back in. You know, like a hole? Where you dig a hole and fill it back in?
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AnonymousJune 28, 2015 at 3:08 PM
It’s not unusual for a subject to return to the scene of the crime. The bible even references this was it states dogs return to their vomit.
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AnonymousJune 28, 2015 at 4:55 PM
Ok that’s a super nonsensical analogy! The dog is sick, he/she doesn’t throw up maliciously!
It’s REPEATS!!!! Unless Chase now eats vomit!!!
“11Like a dog that returns to its vomit Is a fool who repeats his folly.”
Should I laugh or cry???
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I laughed until I cried. 😂😂😂
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Aaaaaaaaahahahaha
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It’s not nice to make fun of the whatever the hell she is but good god, she opens herself up to it. What must life be like living in her world? I thought Becky had it bad but now I’m not so sure.
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Just Me,
I know a few people who are like Dierdre if they forget their meds for a few days. I would never make fun of them.
The crazy conspiracy theories and scenarios they come up with while off their meds? Not so much. That stuff can be hilarious!!
I am outraged that Baker exploits these people to further his agenda of muddling the truth, of implicating innocent people,and creating a general distrust of law enforcement.
Everything he does is so haphazard and half assed.
The least he could do is be specific. Address each instance of wrong doing by law enforcement in a way that might make a difference at the end of the day. Fact check. Verify the credibility of sources. Admit when hes made a mistake. But that’s too much work for a lazy a-hole like Baker. Too many brain cells expended. Too much heart and caring and effort involved in doing a good job. That’s what makes me want to cry.
He takes advantage of not only those who comment, but his audience as well by approving outrageous comments in the hope of wringing out a few laughs for his audience. I’m sure he only views Dierde for the entertainment value she provides. And that hurts too.
The really sad thing is there are thousands more Bakers out there, some in very powerful positions.
What makes me laugh til I cry, is that it’s human nature. At the end of the day it’s really only ourselves we can work on and change.
Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference……that’s funny too….when we bang our head against a wall trying to change others.
Time for me to STFU. Lololol
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Baker cares about Baker. I can completely understand how he can defend Merritt, they’re like 2 peas in a pod. Baker gets him. What a sad and disgusting world if it’s filled with the likes of them.
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Yep. Be gets a lying thriving baby killer. 😈
But I disagree about him caring about himself, his naked self. Imo he is lost in ego gratification.
He’s like the guy who mistakes his one way trip to hell for the winning lotto ticket!
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First worrd is He. Grrr
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Okay, so I just hung up from having a 24.3 minute conversation with Chase. Can I just say what a swell guy he is? I’m telling you, when he gets out you MUST meet him, especially any of you cowgirls out there. Giddy up! Yep, the jailers gave us extra time just like they gave Chase and his family extra visitation time on his birthday. Chase said in between the beatings the jailers are a pretty good bunch of guys.
Anywho… he sounded frigging a-maz-ing! Strong and healthy as a killer. Did I just say that? My bad! What I meant to say was strong and healthy as an ox. The jail food is doing wonders for him. And wouldn’t you know, he is cured of his congestive heart failure. It’s nothing short of a miracle that he no longer has it. I did mail him ttoo book that the misses and I wrote about eating nothing but the grass in the yard and covering yourself in big white fluffy dog hair so I can only assume he took the advice to heart. Haha, I made a funny. I love me, me and me.
We talked about the pesky money stealing thing and he swears it’s all a huge misunderstanding and the casino floor bosses are going to back him on that. Oh, and the phone pings! Well it seems the FBI are a bunch of fucking morons and don’t know what they’re talking about. How can our Federal gubmit be so stupid? And corrupt! They’re just like Ramos and McMahon and out to frame poor Chase. I don’t get why they’d want to screw such a swell guy. Anywho, all that Quick Books jibber jabber is all because of Michael and Susan. They held a gun to his pretty little head and made him type, delete, print, over and over again until THEY had the money to hit the tables. Chase swears he did not want any of the money, regardless of how it looks. His exact words were “trust me, I’m being set up”. I believe him. I think Bill Gore and some vomiting dog are in on it too.
K, so he promised he’s going to call again super soon so don’t worry about him in the mean time. He has a great new haircut, thanks to Mr. Mettias calling a Saudi Prince and the showers now have luke warm water, again thanks to the Prince, or was it the Princess? Don’t matter, he’s doing peachy keen.
Until next time,
Ridiculous Blogger
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Oh. Em. Gee. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
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MY goodness! Thanks for the laugh RB. Flipping HILARIOUS.
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Oh yeah! Soooo funny!!
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Damn it Hyde, you’re going to compel me to write another mocking piece. That was brilliant as usual.
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You know those people who are so obnoxious sounding or outward appearance is so horrible and they’re the last person to see it. Rick is THAT guy!!
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Ha! This time it wasn’t Hyde. I was feeling a little froggy. ; )
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Seriously Just Me? Feeling frisky, eh??
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I just had to look up thread cause I was thinking it was you on the third G&T. But alas, it was Fran.
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Not me this time!!!!
That was awesome, Just Me!!!!
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Hey!! I found a pic of Rick at his first job! This was when Linda first kicked him out of the house to help support the family.
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WOW there’s even footage of Rick at work!!!
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I’d like to believe you, Corn, but I don’t think he’s worked an honest days work his entire life. The word sponge comes to mind.
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lol Baker is defective as them cans!
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Hahaha. Back when gas was about 25 cents per gallon.
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Just an observation, Linda had poor taste in men at that time.
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Here he is when he was much younger. Who knew?!
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LMAO!!!!
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Luv, luv, luv it. Just as I would picture Baker in his younger years 🙂
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This is how I picture him as a teen.
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Is that Wally? From leave it to beaver? Perfect! lol
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No, It’s Eddie. 😊
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Lmao. Achiever loser.
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Then there’s this one – before he got the braces
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Giddy up!!
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Catch me if you can Rick!
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Almost choked on my coffee!!!
http://thbillgoreconspiracy.blogspot.com/
Totally righteous. What a way to start the week.
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I am totally speechless right now. Maybe it’s Aphasia.
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Oh my how my head hurts. You seriously cannot make this shit up. Wow!
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Hmmmm
Mental disorder of derealization and a low IQ….sounds like something RB might order for breakfast
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Here we go….
Rick BakerJune 29, 2015 at 12:11 PM
I have come to believe that the decisions of Joseph and Summer McStay, both directly and indirectly, led to the deaths of Gianni and Joseph Mateo McStay.
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Ya that’s it, blame it on the DEAD victims who cannot defend themselves. How fucking insensitive and cruel.
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RB I have come to believe you are an a$$hole. LEAVE THE MCSTAY FAMILY, ALL OF THEM, ALONE!! You rotten piece of 💩
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Yes, Mr. Creepy removed Summer and Joseph from the wall of honor. He predictably made a sharp left after nearly crashing into the wall of truth. After weeding out all comments that point at CMs guilt he attempts to rearrange and delete comments from a nonsensical disjointed thread about grave robbing and bone grabbing and then slyly starts pushing that thread lower on his blog of lies. Now he starts a teaser thread again which will predictably cause all his followers to begin bashing JM and SM, even those dimwits who have previously had compassion for these victims. Anything for attention. Anything.
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Someone here called it. Don’t recall who, but Internet High Five to you.
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What an incredible liar he is. Sheriff McMahon said in the press conference that he talked to many people and did extensive investigation on him. No one had a bad thing to say about Joey. Joey was not involved in criminal activity and was running a very successful and honest business.
But, you were right that he was getting ready to smear the parents…again.
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What an ass!!!
“The more my investigator learns, the more disappointed we both become. Releasing another book on this mystery is not something I want to do, but, Gianni and Little Joey deserve their justice. If not us, then who? To date, no one else has stepped forward. If the extended family members want to come forward with the truth they know, then I can stop. Until then, I have no choice but to move forward.”
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If all this new information exists, why not give it to the authorities and get Chase exonerated ?
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If he gives it to the authorities then he won’t be the hero, the savior or center of attention. It’s so easy to see when he’s not getting the attention he thinks he’s due because he pulls inflammatory and inciting shit like this. Baker, if you have any balls please take them and crawl back under your rock.
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If he gave it to the authorities they would politely tell him to
Shove it where the sun don’t shine
And
STFU!
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A couple of days ago he said the prosecution wasn’t interested in his information.
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I am so sick of him using the pictures of those sweet little boys to justify all of his wrong-doing and make himself appear to be noble. He doesn’t have the nobility he claims to have. All he can do is fake it!
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It seems like he is tipping Chase’s hand by hinting at the defense strategy. They will use the video of the Mexican crossing along with SDSD prior suspicions that the family crossed the boarder. They will try to prove that it WAS the McStays going down to Mexico and that they were up to no good. Got themselves killed. So this must be the shit storm. Uh huh.
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Corn,
Whatever you have in your bag of tricks to counter his bullshit is needed now! I can’t believe even he would stoop so low to blame the very people who loved their boys more than life itself.
Whatever bad Baker gets in life is completely earned and deserved. Ugh, how I despise him!
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It’s vile. Insinuating the parents are to blame while completely exonerating the accused.
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He started up with the sinister insinuations and other suspects right before the prelim. He is doing the same thing again because the damning search warrants are getting ready to be released.
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You’re right. He’s big on preemptive strikes. He’s not very smart but he is manipulative and cunning.
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The only thing Joey is guilty of is trusting Chase.
Plenty of people with kind hearts have been duped by believing someone has turned their life around.
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My Investigator? Is that like his attorney…the online one who was dead? Rick couldn’t afford an attorney to defend himself in a lawsuit and he has steadily been selling off cars and other assets for 2 years – but he has money to retain a PI?
Sure. Rick couldn’t even pony up the funds for a copy of the prelim transcripts.
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It’s probably Dierdre and ice chick, whoever that is. Taylor?
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A couple of internet crackpots and a 21 year old daughter who knows nothing. Yep, that is right up Baker’s alley.
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Maybe we can put together a biography of Joey and Summer to counter the bs.
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Apparently the DA just announced they’re going to seek the death penalty.
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Where did you hear that Just Me?
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http://www.sbcountyda.org/Newsroom/PressReleases/2015/DAtoseekDeathPenaltyinMcStayfamilymurders.aspx
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Thanks Fran.
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👍👍 Thanks Fran. Recovered from those G&T??
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Yep! With a little help from my friendly espresso machine. LoL
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GOOD.I know they are having issues with the death penalty in CA and there is litigation in the higher courts about it, but If proven guilty, CM deserves the highest penalty.
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Lets play, pretend Baker is telling the truth.
A private investigator could not come to any conclusions about Joey or Summer without speaking to family, friends and being able to get their hands on records that are not public records. Does anyone believe any of the family or friends or other prosecution witnesses would speak to anyone other than LE since the arrest? A private investigator is not going to be able to subpoena records. And in an ongoing criminal case FOIA isn’t going to cut it. If media can’t get their hands on it, some slub PI isn’t. Only leaves the defense sharing what they have, which is what the state has given them. And the state believes that evidence proves Chase murdered them because of money…his wanting their money and/or covering up that he stole their money.
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FOIA?
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freedom of information act
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James Ramos was given the
Civic Leadership Award last year.
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RB had a post up, that has now been removed, trying to smear campaign contributions given to DA Ramos from James Ramos.
I perked up at the name because there is a James Ramos who is a bird singer. I don’t think they are the same person tho. My investigative skills suck! LoL
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He probably took it down after he read the whole article. It reflected really bad on the guy that was running against Ramos. The man running against him was taking campaign contributions from someone under indictment for bribery, corruption – local politicians involved in it.
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Well I have been stewing ever since this latest B$ from RBull$hitter. I want to know what we can do to stop him. Any suggestions out there? What he has done, and has been doing, should be illegal. I know he will never change, never ever. How in the world can he be stopped??
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There isn’t any investigator or book in the works. This is just another bluff – like his writing No Remorse. If he had anything solid to publish he would, trial or no trial. He might write one after the trial that contradicts the prosecution’s case, but right this moment, he doesn’t know what that is. Baker is good at pulling conspiracies out of his ass and plenty of fools ready to believe in them.
Rick Baker
June 29, 2015 at 6:23 PM
There is an active murder case where the SBC DA has charged Chase Merritt with four counts of murder. Once the trial has concluded, we will release what he have and are still putting it all together.
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I read that post and thought the exact same thing, ABC. To say he’s transparent and predictable is an understatement.
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This absolutely proves it is all bullshit. There isn’t anything in Mexico to find. We’ve come full circle he is on the International Manhunt again.
Anonymous
June 29, 2015 at 6:29 PM
Active as in actively still collecting evidence and interviews active
Rick Baker
June 29, 2015 at 6:31 PM
Yes. South of the Border.
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Baker accusing Joey is the only news in his latest overt victim bashing campaign. He’s always blamed Summer.
Taking bets on Baker’s South of the Border insinuations:
Los Zetas?
Sinaloa Cartel?
Tijuana Cartel?
A.L.T?
Latin Alliance?
Menudo?
Or maybe this is where he is “actively collecting evidence and interviews?”
http://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/2211
or here?
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g54263-d124797-Reviews-South_of_the_Border-Hamer_South_Carolina.html
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I really don’t understand where he’s going with his south of the border B.S. I know LE doesn’t tell the public everything but if there were a SOB theory wouldn’t it have received a nod or mention at the prelim? I’m starting to think Repulsive Blogger really is in cahoots with Dierdre.
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He said earlier today that the CPS case had nothing to do with it – So that means McFadden has a solid alibi. I’m wondering if he has found out that his other “suspects” do too.
I have not read his book, only comments and reviews about it – it appeared to me Baker made spam and phishing emails into something nefarious that in reality were nothing. So I expect if he leaks anything it will be that caliber of “evidence”, something that means nothing but he twists it to his fit his agenda.
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HTM, when I hear South of the Border, I always think of the place in South Carolina.
As always and par for the course, RBull$hitter is full of it!
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So funny to imagine scraggly RB hanging out by the public washrooms offering $20 an interview to sketchy lurkers and tweekers.
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Rick did say he was going to have another online radio show after the prelim. What happened to that? With all these new developments he would have plenty to discuss. He could have his investigator on as a guest.
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I’m convinced Baker is consuming Shrooms. Lots of them.
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You know Corn, whatever it takes. 🍄🍄Gotta get justice!!
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“We would be bereft without Rick and I thank him everyday”. Spoken like a true disciple of hate. Baker is like a one man Westboro Baptist Church. Only a certain brand of nut will join. He’s a Brimstone Magpie (Dickens).
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Let me get all this straight about Chase. Yes, he hasn’t been to trial yet and yes he’s presumed innocent until proven guilty. BUT the evidence is so damning. There can be no alternative explanation for his involvement. There are pings that tie him to the gravesite, which is in close proximity to his residence. His sister blew his lie out of the water about visiting her in the hospital. He has no alibi. There are QB checks that were written to him, printed, deleted, deposited to his account. Someone from his own cell phone called to try to cancel the QB account, not knowing at that point where his friend / business associate even was at the time. His DNA is in the Trooper. He’s left handed and one of the biggest wounds to Joey was on the left side of his head (from a blow to the back of the head). There were 27 calls between him and Joey the day of the disappearance and then miraculously after the last known call, his phone is shut off. He was “definitely” the last person to see Joey. He didn’t recall if the police asked him if he killed Joey and his family. He went from 27 calls in one day to 3 calls over the next couple of days with no messages being left. He hated Summer (and her brutal beating proves the killer had rage for her). He referred to the family in past tense. The list goes on and on and on and on. And I know this evidence has been discussed heavily over the last several days. I just don’t understand why a man like this would proclaim his innocence and declare that a shitstorm is coming. Lying, cheating, stealing, volatile, insecure, jealous, con artist, baby killer, murderer piece of shit. Sorry, had to vent…….
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http://sandiegocorruption.yolasite.com/san-diego-wade-of-corruption.php
Notice the picture?
So, here’s a theory…..
Maybe RB’s first failed conspiracy was all this Bill Gore/Celeste hubbaloo. The McStay murders just happened to play into the same area as the SD conspiracy. Maybe he and Celeste have long been compadres?
While perusing some of the older blog sites, and the CNN writing project, there seem to be some distinct writing similarities.
Wouldn’t that just be about like RB? Using the McStay tragedy, all along, to further yet a completely separate agenda….well, sort-of….ultimately, it would still be about him.
“Unvestigative Hernalist of the Year”
Maybe RB=Celeste?
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Wtf😳. Is that Deidre/Bill gore site really her’s or did someone here make it? Now way that is real.
And wtf, just when I think Dick cannot top himself…he does🔫
Why do I allow myself to be surprised👹
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I no longer will be surprised. Even if all of a sudden there is a huge apology. Even if there are posting that Rick will be somewhere to confront, protest or sit his ass in court and he fails to show up. Even if it seems as if he is actually attempting to prevent the justice he claimed to be seeking. The only thing that would surprise me is if this man stopped trying to get attention and just went away.
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I noticed a comment about a woman writing THE Book, is he latching onto that one writer Maeve always brought up or is?
The timing is right.
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Yes Caitlin Rother. A truly great true crime writer. I have read most of her books and they are 5 stars in my opinion. She will definitely cut through the BS and expose Baker for the disturbed anomaly that he is.
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I need to google her, I thought had read all the good true crime books, slim pickings these days.
I had a bad feeling that maybe he was going to latch on to her but then I remembered, not everyone is an idiot.
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I have read her. Not Lost Girls though, anyone read it? Is it good?
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I downloaded it and its next on my list. Will let you know.
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Thanks, I liked the Poisined one, the Kristin Rossum case.
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I predict Rick will abandon the South of the Border book. It’s just what he does when he goes south of the border – he abandons. Like his children.
He is the biggest double talking idiot I know. Remember when he wanted to do a bench memorial and some of his followers only wanted the babies names on it because they weren’t positive if the parents were involved in shadiness? Rick treated them horribly and now here he is, doing the exact same thing. I wonder if he berates penny for having white hair?
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“AnonymousJune 29, 2015 at 3:42 PM
Means the DA has a weak case. If he had not sought the DP, everyone would have wondered why? Four murders, two little boys, and not seeking the DP? What is wrong with the case, is what everyone would have said. Will be much harder now to get a conviction, they had better have something up their sleeves.”
Weak case? Did this person not see the evidence? Oh, it must be Rick posting.
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Obviously the judge must have believed it’s not a weak case, Chase is going to trial. Oh but he must be corrupt as well. If even half the evidence was presented it would still be considered a strong case.
The QB’s.
Chase has no answers for detectives about QB’s. None.
Chase is the last person Joseph to see.
DNA on the steering wheel.
Truck backing out of the driveway that is not Trooper but resembles Chase’s truck.
Chase’s multiple recollections of that day.
His hatred for Summer and her beaten to a pulp.
His phone turned off every day that weekend,
beginning with the last convo with Joseph, most for an extended amount of time.
His cell phone pings in the very same area as the graves site on the 6th which is believed Summer and Gianni were buried.
His phone pings at Pechanga Casino on the 9th which is right down the road from the Fallbrook house, very far from his own house.
There is so much more the DA has I’m sure.
Get a fricken clue.
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What is interesting to me is his hatred of Summer is so obvious yet the detective said that Merritt had a hard time remembering her name.
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I agree, Just Me. I find that fascinating.
From what we now know of Summer’s injuries, it seems she was attacked with a considerable amount of rage, which fits perfectly with Chase’s known hatred of her. And I think it speaks volumes that he had a hard time remembering her name. I think he wanted to wipe her off the face of the earth…..he projected onto her all his troubles, seeing her as the cause rather than taking responsibility for his own self inflicted woes. Now that he has successfully wiped her out, she no longer exists to him. I think she may have been his true target, but the way things went down he had to make his move at that time, which meant he also had to kill them all.
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He claims to know Chase is innocent and yet has no proof. Yet, he makes it seem like he does and gets followers to believe him because they believe he’s some “super investigative force.” I don’t understand his demographic. We are hens, and his followers have mental capacities of 10 year olds. Ummmm, sure!
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The ‘Hens’ fucking have it as far as I’m concerned. Even ‘Birdbrains’ get it.
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Hey now, wait a minute!
First I’m asked if I’m some flakey poster on ratbags blog. Now I’m being dissed as a bird brain?
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Maybe your just clowning around…
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That comment from Maeve still rankles me. Because I’m sure she was/is posting as multiple ids.
Bird brain: an annoyingly stupid and shallow person.
That really pisses me off.
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Fran:
I’m positive Corn meant no disrespect, he’s nothing like Baker. I think what he meant was even bird brains would see that Merritt is guilty, not that any of us are bird brains. : )
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Thanks Just Me,
Some of the comments on RB’s have gotten really nasty. More so than usual. Neglectful parents hauled into the backyard and beaten to death.
As we all know, he must read before approving them. The man is sick. Sick.
This place is nothing like that. : )
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Don’t let her comments get to you. She’s one of those people who operates from an imaginary throne of superiority and must swat away anyone she perceives to be trying to challenge her omniscience. Her “If I…” non-apologies and hyper defensiveness say it all. She probably spends so much time analyzing concepts (for example, Can good people have a bummer day and slaughter a few folks?) that she doesn’t take the time to analyze her own faults. The point is, don’t worry. It’s not you.
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What comment was that? There were quite a few I was like…did she just post that and expect everyone to be thrilled?
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In her defense, she’s just “wired” to be that way from being in a family that requires being abrupt in order to be heard. Or so she thinks.
I am technically wired to be a parent who beats their children and a mother who neglects her children and duties at home. But, I CHOSE to do better. Imagine that!
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Oh, it was a couple of days ago, Trollfromsocal.
She asked me if I was Autumn January, a regular commentor on ratbags. That’s all. It was nothing more than a sarcastic little dig in response to a video I posted. I asked her about it and never got a reply.
No big deal, but it bugged me. Moving on….. : )
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She seemed to have an agenda, don’t take it personally.
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Ray Janie Baker
December 19, 2013 ·
REQUEST FOR PRAYER
Becky Baker, our daughter in-law, Rick’s wife, has cancer of the spine, pelvis, throughout her body. We would appreciate your adding her and Rick to your daily prayers. I know we can count on you. Thanks.
I feel sorry for this women to have to live out the rest of her days with that prick.
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It wouldn’t surprise me one bit if he lied about her having cancer. The prick cannot tell the truth! Ever!
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Here’s Chase’s immediate reaction when Randy Kaye asked him “So he was planning for the future?”
[IMG]http://i60.tinypic.com/2qa6b8k.jpg[/IMG]
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Can’t seem to get it to display on the page here. Anyway, if you look at his expression right when she asks him that question, his initial facial expression seemed as though he was thinking “that s.o.b. sure got what he had coming” or something similar. At that very moment, when he was reflecting on how good Joey’s future was going to be with all the business he had lined up, his reaction shows anger and resentment. Very telling.
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Ok here it is. Have a look at Chase’s reaction to the question. What do you see in his face when she asks him “so he was planning for his future?
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“Oh he was definitely planning for the future.” – Chase Merritt
And here’s how his face looked right when he started saying it:
Arrogance. Resentment. Anger. Rage.
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And suddenly, remembering he’s doing a video interview with CNN, he get’s those emotions in check real quick and finishes his reply with a cool composure:
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Excellent. Thank you. Those pesky little micro expressions say it all.
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He’s thinking “yeah, he was planning to end MY future”
I really can’t stand looking at this man.
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It looks like he’s thinking “That’s a sort of idiotic question. Stupid bitch”.
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Yep. Or, “if I only had a sledgehammer right now….”
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What about when she asks him if LE asked if he did the crime. He does not remember. Probably not because it was about them being missing. Whatever he said. Again when given the perfect chance to express his outrage, shock, sick stomach at even the suggestion that he murdered this family, he shrugs it off and moves on.
Come on now, nobody would ever suspect such a thing. Look at all I had to loose. Do I need to go over all the reasons I did not benefit from this crime AGAIN.
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All I see is a caring and loving FAMILY man.
Lol
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Sorry if this has been posted before, but it gave me such a laugh. Dick going off one accusing the police of trying to kill his alcoholic son.
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Isn’t it interesting that both sons supposedly had injuries to their arms, and at right about the same time. Coincidence?
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That is interesting. Good catch.
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I.V. drug users?
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OK. One more thing before I move on. It’s off topic and a bit political, but it puts the bird singing video in context. I will feel better if I share this.
During the discussion of can a man who murders children still be a loving parent to his own children, and casinos, and greed, and ratbag’s lies…I got to thinking about redemption.
As many of you know, less than 175 yrs ago there were horrible massacres and enslavement of the California first peoples. They lost control of the management of their lands, and rivers, farmland and way of life. Their children were stolen and sold into slavery. They have suffered thru generations of post traumatic stress and dysfunction. Thru it all the elders have preserved what they can of their language, their history, traditions and culture. Selflessly giving to the youth, sharing the songs of their ancestors. Mentoring and guiding children, so they can have a better future. The elders have also encouraged their youth to be leaders and helpers in the communities of the descendants of the ones who abused them. People like James Ramos.
Talk about redemption.
I posted the video as an example of what positive selfless parenting is. The positive effect that it can have on an entire community for generations to come. Its very powerful.
So that’s where that little giggly happy hopping song filled video came from.
Here’s the back story, for anyone who is interested, its about 5 minutes.
OK, I feel better now.
Thanks Cornelius, for providing this forum.
Moving on….
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If ratbag is to be believed he just received an update from Jimmy Mettias. Supposedly they will doing mock trials with a forum panel….
I still don’t get the dream teams aligning themselves with Baker.
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I have to think the defense is just throwing him a bone here and there. He’s glommed on to their client and he’s less of a nuisance if they keep him managed by making him feel like a vital part of the team.
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Did Maeve close her blog? I was able to read a couple of weeks ago, but it now says one must be invited. I have heard others say the same.
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I tried to read there yesterday and found the same thing.
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I must have missed something. What is the bird singing video? I have seen it mentioned a couple of times. Thanks!
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It’s in the middle of this page:
https://cuttingthebs.wordpress.com/2015/06/23/telephone-2/comment-page-2/#comments
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Thanks Fran!
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Someone asked Baker if he had facts to back up trashing Joey and Summer. So the defense doesn’t plan on using his “facts”?
Rick Baker
June 29, 2015 at 10:25 PM
Yes, you have noticed that too? Yes, facts will be coming but not until after the trial.
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Baker, and now the dream team, are like watching a train wreck. You know something really bad is about to happen but you can’t stop watching. In all fairness, however, Baker’s train is moving much faster and more recklessly.
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If the prosecution and defense aren’t using his facts, that should tell his readers that he is full of it once again.
Did you see the link to the prelim transcripts he put up?
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Had I known others were going to illegally post the transcripts I could’ve saved myself $160.00. Ya, I’m a little bent about it. Lol
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I would be too! $160 is a lot of money in my world.
I’m hoping we will be able to watch the trial on video.
Tweets just don’t cut it.
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I imagine how the court reporter feels, she has to make a living, it really sucks. Oh well, at least we who paid got to see it a week or so earlier.
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Facts will be coming after the trial? That will be helpful. Must not have any bearing on the case.
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I guess the defense is conspiring against Chase too by not using Baker’s facts.
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I clicked on Dierdre’s FB and there’s a big picture with the caption briar rose or rose briar, something like that. I suspect she’s the one who had the emergency surgery and posted on dick heads blog a few days ago. BTW, how many aliases does she have? Dierdre, Celeste, Rose…
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She really is delusional. I hadn’t paid too much attention to her backstory since she is so far out there. Then I stumbled across this story of her tormenting the mother of a murdered 4 year old boy by posting youtube videos and claiming he is still alive.
Houston woman is seeking an attorney to help her prevent a conspiracy “truther” from posting videos on YouTube saying her murdered son is alive and part of a child trafficking ring.
Brendan Gozalez, son of Rebecca Gonzalez, was murdered by his father in Nebraska in 2003. The father, Ivan Henk, admitted in court that he decapitated his son and dumped his body in a landfill. The 4-year-old boy’s body was never found.
According to KHOU, a YouTube user using the name Celeste Cortes, has been uploading a video featuring a montage of pictures of the boy along with pictures of similar looking older boys, inferring that Brendan is still alive.
http://www.rawstory.com/2014/07/mother-of-murdered-boy-wants-truther-to-stop-posting-youtube-videos-saying-her-son-is-alive/
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And thinking about it – what she is doing to that mother isn’t too much different than what Baker has doing to the McStays. No wonder she fits right in with him.
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ABC – How could either her or Baker be so cruel and heartless? The dad admitted what he did and she continues to insist the little boy is alive and being trafficked no less. Celeste and Baker truly deserve each other.
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Mental illness explains her motives. Same can’t be said for Baker.
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Just Me, I want to know the answer to that question. All RB would need to do is ask himself, if I had four family members murdered, would I want someone harassing and tormenting me? You know the old do unto others?? He is sadistic, selfish, narcissistic.
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Time,
If Repulsive Blogger asked himself that question and answered it honestly he’d be disgusted with himself and his followers. As long as he has ulterior motives he’ll never be honest with himself, his followers or anyone else. He disgusts me!
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IIRC Briar Rose was Sleeping Beauty’s real name. Well she does seem to live in Fantasyland.
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Had to chuckle at one of the theories over there today. Someone suggested that SM and boys crossed the boarder. Somewhere along they all had their feet cut off to keep from running away. Thus no foot bones in grave…
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??? Who said anything about no foot bones in the graves?
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South of The Border thread at the bottom somewhere.
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I seriously can not believe after finding the family buried in Victorville that anyone is still convinced they went to Mexico. If Joey was missing when Summer crossed the border was he already dead and buried? Then later Summer and boys were murdered and then transported back across the border to be buried in Victorville. Even digging up Joey’s grave to place Jos Jr in with him?
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They defy logic. They really do.
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So he’s embarrassed about them not knowing what bullet points are yet he’ll post shit about them having their feet cut off? Only in the world of Ridiculous Blogger. SMH
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This is what I noticed in the border crossing video that I would think someone who knew the family would have noticed this as well…I slowed down the “bc family” frame by frame and saw a few things like:
*The caps worn by the kids in the bc video had some kind of “attachment” at the very top, similar to that of a 1970’s ski cap? (Very noticeable in a few frames only as they passed by the street light.)
*The beanie knit caps the boys wore did not, at least
in the pictures I have seen.
*One of the kids could possibly be the apx height of G, but imo, the other child appeared to be too tall and a different body shape than Jjr. J was a little guy, with short little legs.
*The white jacket that was supposedly Summer’s,
looked like a vest, not a full jacket.
*Looked like there was a black horizontal stripe of
some kind on the back of the vest/jacket?
*The male figure did not resemble JM at all, which many have also mentioned.
The McStay family crossing into Mexico, is being
brought up again. I personally don’t believe this to
be true, at least not the one’s in the bc video.
Can anyone else see the “attachments/round shapes” at the top of the kid’s caps, in the bc video?
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I watched the video one time a very long time ago and quickly decided that it was not the family, especially after the bodies were found buried in California. What would be the purpose of taking the family to Mexico, dead or alive, then bringing them back to Cali just to bury them? It makes zero sense.
I think Baker knows Merritt’s goose is cooked and when it is Baker will be nothing more than a bad, irrelevant memory. Baker has to come up with a story line in an attempt to stay relevant and sadly his followers are too stupid and gullible to see what he’s doing. Plus, Baker cannot stand the fact that Michael McStay has not and will not be charged. I think Baker’s book is going to be nothing more than a fictional book smearing and bashing all of the McStays.
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*attachment on the top, aka a pom-pom.
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Good eyes, Cheetos!
I just went back and re-watched the video, after not having seen it for quite some time. I never really thought it was them either…..just didn’t make any sense to me.
With regard to the kids’ hats / caps, I do see what you are seeing….tassles at the top. And I think the black horizontal stripe on the woman’s jacket might be the edge of a hood. At least that’s what it looks like to me.
One thing that I always wondered about, re: the video. I wondered why SDSD didn’t ask every news station in SoCal to air that video and ask for the public’s help in identifying the family that they claimed was the McStays. There are a lot of workers who cross that border on a daily basis. I do know that there were flyers distributed by McStay family members at the border crossing area, but I would think that airing that footage and airing it often, along with pictures of the McStays might have yielded something.
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Thank you dreamchaser, I thought that’s what I was seeing. And, the boys only wore the hipster surfer beanies….sorry… I don’t know if there is a specific name for the ones worn by G and Jjr?. It also looked like the woman’s sleeves were black. That’s why I thought it might be a vest, not a full on jacket. JMO, LE could have done a much better job, before they assumed this was the McStays. Would it have changed the outcome? Maybe not! But they might have had the murderer in custody 3 years earlier?
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Re: Who was the family in the bc video, and why they never came forward to identify themselves? It’s possible they never knew they were the subject of a missing person’s investigation. Or, maybe there were other issues keeping them from saying anything? We may never know.
I do think that, initially, flyers were handed out at the border re: the disappearence, after the Trooper was found.
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Probably a non English speaking family returning home. Fact is that the San Ysidro border crossing is literally the busiest border crossing in the world. One could probably have found a similar family group every day. It always bothered me that they took the word of a rent-a-cop and only searched tapes for one 24 hour period. I would not be surprised if the Trooper were left earlier and it just didn’t get towed until later.
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Just Me, I also feel the same way, that it was not the McStay’s. I know it is a moot point, but I had noticed what I thought were pom-poms, at the top of the caps? I could be wrong, but LE was insisting the family went to Mexico. I would just think someone in the immediate family or friends of the McStays, might have noticed as well??? Water under the bridge as they say!
Ridiculous Blogger (RB), very clever btw!
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OMG, they are seriously considering that the feet were removed to keep the McStays from running away??!!! It would be hysterical if it wasn’t so tragic!!!
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I am changing my user name from Viking to Henrietta. It’s a nod to the ridiculous blogger. What does he mean anyways, calling us all “hens”. Estupido.
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🐓 The best I could come up with Henrietta!!
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Ha! You’ve inspired me to change my name. It’s Fran here. Lolol
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I would think multiple blows to the head with a sledgehammer would keep anyone from running away.
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I racked my brain to come up CheetosRUs, so I think I will keep it for now. However, if anyone wants this one…you can buy it for $160.00. (jk)
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Looks like Baker sweet talked the court reporter.
Here are Full, Unedited Transcripts for Merritt June 15 Preliminary Hearing
I now have Teresa Wolfe’s (court reporter) permission to post the full, unedited transcripts from the June 15 Chase Merritt Preliminary Hearing. She asks that you not download or copy and paste these transcripts, but that you read them here. Comments are open for this thread, let us know what you see. I have posted the transcripts in six parts due to their length.
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Such an idiot, he always has somebody’s permission or blessing. Give me a break.
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I won’t read the entire transcript, but I think they are spelling McGyver’s last name wrong. I thought it was McCargar not McCarger? Wonder what else will be incorrect? Hopefully, not crucial evidence?
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Could someone please tell me how ‘Deirdre and aka’ came from.
I get that she is not all there but how and when did she insert herself in this case.
Who is she?
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She is a mentally ill woman who has created multiple websites and videos over the years. From the bit I’ve read it seems to have started after 9-11, her delusions always seem to circle back to that event. It is really hard to follow her train of thought or figure out what this big govt conspiracy against her is about.
I don’t know how long she has been on Baker’s site. She appears to follow some true crime. There is another whacko with similar issues following him and the McStay case too…last name is Bland. She is all over the internet with crackpot websites too.
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Before they were found, I myself, like so many others, believe it may have the family in the video. There was other strong evidence to support it. My only hang up with it was the last frame before the crossing. The male looked to have longer hair than Joey. But it definitely looked like Summer and the boys.
Further input from the family unfortunately solidified the belief. Merritt himself said it could not be the family. That in itself does make me wonder why, if in fact he is the killer. That is my only hang up on it, why he did not run with it.
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Didn’t chase say he knew it wasn’t them crossing the border AFTER the bodies were found?
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Could be. This is from the DailyMail interview.
“He was my best friend and we told each other everything. When they showed me the video of them crossing into Mexico, I told the them Joseph would not go into Mexico with those kids and that the man in the footage was not him.
Joseph had a very particular walk, it sounds strange, but he moved like a duck and that man didn’t. There is absolutely no possibility that was him.”
I wonder now if they actually showed him the video and did he say that then.
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Chase was using reverse psychology. Like playing poker.
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Probably because it didn’t serve whatever lies he was telling that day.
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Thank you so much, she must’ve slipped through the cracks with me.
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JMO, Based on the pom poms on top of the knit caps, I just had this feeling that the kids in the bc video were girls. Also, Summer was at least 50% hispanic, so she is going to resemble the majority of the hispanic women crossing the border, on a grainy video. The women going through those turnstyles will not be a very diverse group?! Now if this video had been from an airport, I would feel a little
differently.
It was also my understanding that PM said it wasn’t Joey or Summer, and I believe so did the Arandas? LE kept insisting it was the McStays, from what I have read and remember watching on the TV
specials.
*50%, Because I am not aware of the nationality of
her father.
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Fowl Mouth is an awesome name! But so is Cheetos. I am rather fond of the Cheetos name, so please keep that one!
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Ok…Cheetos it is! Fowl Mouth…anyone?
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Is it still free? {Hallie}
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🚫 🐓 for you!
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We might need a new thread. Warrants have been released with redactions. No online link available yet.
PE_Gail Wesson @PE_GailWesson · 40s41 seconds ago
@PE_GailWesson: Search warrants unsealed with redactions in #McStay case Charles Merritt accused of 4 homicides
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Joe Nelson @SBcountyNow · 24m24 minutes ago
About 6 or 7 sentences redacted from #McStay search warrants. Judge Michael Smith has released them. #ChaseMerritt
Joe Nelson @SBcountyNow · 23m23 minutes ago
Two of the 35 #McStay search warrants will remain sealed.
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If anyone needs a copy of the prelim transcript send an email to: merritt.trans@aol.com
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Search warrants released to the media Wednesday morning reveal that accused McStay family killer Charles Merritt had allegedly been loaned thousands of dollars by Joseph McStay to repay gambling debts, was set to be fired by McStay and had made statements saying that he would murder McStay’s business associate.
In an Aug. 4, 2014 warrant, San Bernardino County Sheriff’s deputies write that Merritt told San Diego County Sheriff’s investigators that he did not like Joseph McStay’s wife, Summer, or Joseph’s business associate Daniel Kavanaugh.
Merritt reportedly told SDSD investigators in an interview that, “If I were ever going to commit a murder, it would be with him,’ referring to harming Kavanaugh.”
Kavanaugh was also interviewed, and allegedly told investigators that Joseph McStay “lent Merritt $30,000 to pay a gambling debt Merritt incurred,” and that Joseph planned to fire Merritt.
More coming –
http://www.vvdailypress.com/article/20150701/NEWS/150709977
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Barbara Richards @sdbrichards · 4m4 minutes ago
BREAKING: newly-released documents point to possible involvement of a second person in McStay murders. @cbs8 @ 11am
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What part points to the possible involvement of a second person, I wonder.
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I’m not thru reading them but in SWs for a bunch of phone numbers stating it might lead to additional suspects, Jarvis’ name and phone number keeps coming up. But that could simply be that her name was used for her and Chase’s phone accounts.
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I admit that legalese isn’t my first language but from what I did read and understood from the warrants, Barbara Richard’s attention-grabbing tweet seemed like a Baker-style long leap to a conclusion.
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They stated they wanted search warrants because it was probable (likely) someone else could have been involved, since it’s a quadruple murder and transporting of bodies to desert location, clean up, etc.
it seems more like they wanted to seize records to see if any matched up with being a possible helper. That’s how it read to me. Not that they think there’s more involved.
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But I could be totally wrong because I am not good at these things, no background, education in them.
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WARRANTS-
Click to access mcstay_warrants.pdf
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Baker’s so full of shit. SBSO sent a SW for Mike’s phone records in August 2014.
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Uh oh = Merritt first told them he spoke with Joey at 8:28 about Saudi Arabia.
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Whoa Reading the T-Mobile warrant it sounds like Merritt or someone used a McStay phone to access Joey’s computer on the 8th. I’ve read it twice and am still not sure.
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Where is that? I must’ve missed it?
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Is that where they stated someone possibly brought the phone into a t mobile store to be hacked? And that they have evidence it logged on there? Was confusing to me that they said a former eip customer was there?
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A former EIP customer and T-Mobile had offices at the address. It appears LE believes whatever was happening was going on at the T-Mobile office.
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ABC,
What page is the T-Mobile warrant that you’re reading? Thanks
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Is anyone reading these other than myself? Lots of info in them.
I have to chuckle at Baker making fun of people who live in trailers….Chase & his current girlfriend live in one and Jarvis is living in a motorhome.
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Meanwhile over in Bakerstan, Xanax scripts are being refilled.
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Oh lordy, Chase was playing the, I have a bad heart, card back in Feb 2010 interview.
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Where did you see that?
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It was in two SWs. One said he kept delaying his Feb interview with San Diego saying he had health issues and had heart stents inserted recently. It was brought up in another SW, where they said in home videos close to the time the McStays were murder- Chase jumped a fence and climbed a mountain. I’ll see if I can find the page numbers.
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I had to skim because I kept seeing the same things over and over. That could’ve been reduced by half if they would’ve only put new info in 😉
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Stalling the interview, jumping the fence and climbing the mountain page 289
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Thank you!
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According to the search warrants, Summer’s remains were found with a terry cloth robe. A similar robe was pictured on a hook in the bathroom. (jmo) It now seems more likely that Summer might have been giving one of the kids a bath, when she was attacked.
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Anonymous re: Summer’s robe was Cheetos.
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makes sense since the boy’s cat towel/robe was in the grave and only one wadded up towel was found in the bathroom. 4 people in a home, should be more towels in the bathrooms.
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So he stole their phones, credit cards and wallet/purse. Guess we know who tried to update the Capitol One credit card now. Yeah sure, Joey gave him his credit card number and QB accounts to use. Keene Engineering should breath a sigh of relief, as I’m sure since Chase was given “the keys to the castle” they were going to be his mark.
I’m still piecing together T-Mobile SW. It sounds like he might have been trying to crack Joey’s password to get to the info to transfer QBs. But when he didn’t succeed, he called back on the 9th in a frenzy, and told them to just delete both accounts and forget about the instructions from the 8th.
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So this is going to be his defense, Joey gave me access to QuickBooks and all his credit cards, right.
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I don’t think that will fly with a jury – especially Joey instructing him from the grave to delete the accounts.
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Good God
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The search warrants also mentioned, “that blood spatter and or cast off can be painted over, and will not be noticeable to the naked eye. However,
blood that has been painted over can be found, if the proper forensic tests are performed, even years later.”
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The majority of the “poster boards” on rb’s blog, insisted that blood could not be painted over! I disagreed…just say’n! I don’t know if they were actually killed in the home. Seems to me the attacks started in the home, and the murderer may have ended their lives elsewhere? Proper forensics were never performed in the home back in 2010. I realize, after the bodies were found, SBSD performed tests for blood, etc… Were these just “surface” luminol tests, or did they bring in special equipment and scan each wall for blood that could have been painted over? All of the flooring had been replaced
by the new home owner as well. The murderer had days and days to cover up the crime! Too many assumptions were made early on, that the McStays
could not have been attacked/killed in their home. jmo
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Yes, the warrants say that you can paint over blood, but if the scene had been properly processed at the time of the crime, the blood could have been detected.
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he had bakers book in his house. And notes about murder, remorse, forgiveness? If Cathy is truly innocent, i feel bad for her.
Keene is an idiot, dudes gotta be a millionaire and he’s hiring convicts for work. Smh
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I like how he brought notes for his San Diego interview. He was going to call the shots.
The current girlfriend is an idiot for being with him. Her own friend disowned because she was creeped out by him. I wonder if those redactions are him badmouthing Summer.
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One of the redactions is about his polygraph – I can see the words “showed deception”.
In the redaction with Muir’s old friend – I can see the words “Merritt laughed”
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SoCal…Where did you find that info about Chase having a copy the book? That is very interesting, to say the least!
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It’s in a handwritten search warrant. Let me see if I can find page # the same search warrant where it says they seized a Justin bieber notebook
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P238
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ABC…was Chases’s cell linked to the Capitol One CC ? Sorry if this is old news. I just had not read that here before. Was someone trying to up the credit line?
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Baker has claimed Pat or someone else gave him a copy of an email from Capitol One. It was Joey’s account and had to do with updating something.
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P.290 must be lie detector results. I can read it says Merritt also showed deception under the black marks. They don’t want lie detector results out because they show deception and think that will sway others??
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Then they shouldn’t have told Baker. He already posted the results.
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Where!?
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I got this out of google cache – he has since deleted this – it was originally posted June 24th.
2. Chase Merritt failed two important questions on his polygraph.
Yes, he took it voluntarily and yes, polygraphs are not admissible and sometimes not accurate. I don’t know exactly how many questions he was asked, including his warmups, but the two questions he answered “less than truthful” according to test results could be problematic. Or, is there an explanation?
Question one: “Did you have anything to do with the disappearance of the McStay family?”
Chase answer: “No.”
Result: Answer is “less than truthful.”
Question two: “Do you know where the McStay family is today?”
Chase answer: “No.”
Result: Answer is “less than truthful.”
So do these results mean that Chase lied? Not necessarily. Chase has a heart condition, has had two heart attacks, and takes certain meds for that condition. He also has three stents. This condition has been known to affect the outcome of polygraph tests.
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P.289 blackouts are obviously about more injuries he had to his body. They fought back.
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They don’t want anyone knowing he had more injuries because they will think it’s from the fight. Gotta be.
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Prior knowledge is blacked out (likely where they have lie detector results blacked out)
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So is withholding & disappear. Pretty much the only words I can see through the blackout.
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Merritt is a vagrant. His belongings are strewn across the western part of the US or either repossessed. He hangs his hat at his girlfriend’s homes or backrooms of where he was working. Pretty much always been a bum. Jarvis living out of a motorhome on someone’s property to have access to running water – yikes. I imagine this current girlfriend is probably on the low rent side too.
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He must have seen what Joey and Summer had and was so jealous he somehow convinced himself that he too was entitled to their good fortunes. After all without him Joey would have nothing, in Merritt’s opinion of course.
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If Taylor has the knowledge that we now have and still thinks Daddy is innocent, she’s in complete denial. I suppose at her age it’s somewhat understandable. It doesn’t sound to me like he’s ever been much of a dad anyway. No, I’m not starting THAT conversation again. Lol
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lolololololol
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One thing that surprises me a little is that redacting involved nothing more than careless scribbling with a Sharpie that left plenty of words exposed.
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You would think they would have a specialized “blackout” redaction pen or tape. I should invent that? Actually, Whiteout correction tape would work better than what they seem to be using now.
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Hhhhmmm cribbing notes from “no Goodbyes” for his i interviews with LE.
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Exactly what I was thinking, Snowbird.
Are any of the phone numbers in the SW Rick’s?
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Merritt seems to have been very thorough in disposing of blood evidence….maybe this is where his smugness is coming from…
Not that I think he stands a chance of being found not guilty.
Looks like the DA has a very solid case.
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Believe it or not, that is the manner in which most legal documents are redacted.
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Did they have to sedate Rick? I’m not seeing new comments over there.
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The SDCSD really pisses me off. Why in the world would they not do a parallel criminal investigation and treat the home as a potential crime scene? They should be ashamed of themselves.
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Were there two keys to the storage unit, one loose,one on a ring in joeys pocket? Implying “hand in your key buddy” during the lunch meeting?
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Anonymous 6:58 p.m. (EST)
From a defense perspective, that’s not a laughing matter. You realize the defense needs someone else to blame, correct?
I’ve never tried a death penalty case, not qualified. If I was qualified, I’d throw anyone and everyone under the proverbial bus, put it in reverse and back over them again.
Mr. Baker, you may be compelled to testify.
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Can anyone ever imagine Baker being called as a witness? It would be like calling one of the Three Stooges. He has put all of his crazy thoughts in writing and has ZERO credibility.
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Not a peep out of Baker. Probably started drinking early today. Merritt’s going to fry and if he doesn’t understand that by now, he’s a fool.
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New Thread.
https://cuttingthebs.wordpress.com/2015/07/01/more-warrants-released/
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I got this much off of the redacted sentence:
Merritt…………………..intentionally withholding the location of the McStay family. Merritt also showed deceptive…
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So…maybe it went something like this “Merritt showed deception when asked if he was intentionally withholding the location of the McStay family. Merritt also showed deceptive behavior when asked if he killed the McStay family.” Just a wild guess…
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