Yep. Merritt, who stated he didn’t want this played out in the media, blabbed to Norma, who, even though she was warned not to, ran to Baker and blabbed some more. And like everything else Rick gets his hands on….it turned to shite.
Norma seems to be hanging in there with Rick. He doesn’t care how accurate the information is, anyway. He’s used to strange tall tales from time to time mixed in with an occasional truth of little significance.
Interestingly, Charles wouldn’t even see his family for a few weeks not long after his arrest. He let the media in, though. Isn’t that strange? Then, he told them a boogey man came to see him – an enforcer type. Scary dude. But, he wouldn’t tell them what he said.
To visit, according to the rules, you have to schedule a visit 24 hours in advance. So why would Merritt meet with someone he has never heard of before? I would think the jailers give them option of visiting or not – or run it by them before they let them in the center. How can the family believe such nonsense.?
In order to visit anyone at the jail the visitor has to leave a valid photo ID at the visitor’s “front desk”. A visitor will not be allowed inside without providing this. Period.
I don’t know why the chiropractor would have a body guard, that is hilarious! The chiropractor actually doesn’t think Merritt murdered the family.
Things to make you go hmmm. Maybe the chiropractor knows more than he let on in the media (where he did trash Chase completely and state he’s sure he’s guilty). Blackmail possibilities?
I think it was B.S. Why would the chiropractor have a body guard who would go see Chase and frighten him so badly he would clam up and refuse to talk to his family? Someone made up that story. I’m just not sure who.
Well, it’s surely on record who visited him, right? Would be strange if it was that guy’s bodyguard. Since that guy (chiropractor) trashed him in the press as a con man and thief and probably murderer. Makes you wonder if Chase and him (bodyguard) had some sort of friendship behind the chiropractor’s back. Maybe he’s another schemer like Chase. Or maybe Chase has contracted for him to do something shady for him while he’s in prison. This guy is so not looking like the fine, upstanding citizen he wants us to see him as.
What was really surprising was hearing that Chase was receiving visits from the media during that time. I didn’t believe it until a reporter did a story on it not long after. Why would you not receive your family but would receive the media??
Because he could get away with not answering any questions from the media? His family on the other hand he needed to BS about what evidence LE had on him and until he had a better handle on that, he needed to stall those visits.
That’s what I thought. That’s why I called the “bodyguard” the “boogey man.” There is NO bodyguard. Come on, as you guys pointed out, you can’t just sneak in the back door and visit an inmate. You have to show proper I.D. I’m just saying that Baker’s sources are people Chase has a strong vested interest in lying to if he did this. He wouldn’t want his family or girlfriend to know he bashed two little boys and their parents to death.
I don’t know if Chase did this, I still have a lot of questions that I hope the prosecution will answer the week after next, but I think I have a good read on what the State’s case is. And this is only because every time someone from the defense opens their stupid mouth, they confirm some aspect of my theory of the case (my theory of what happened IF Chase did this.)
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We now can be pretty confident that Chase’s alibi is weak–if he even has one. I would imagine it is weak for key days: Feb 4 & 5; Feb 6, maybe. I don’t actually think the 8th is that important—someone else could have driven the trooper to the border. But if the State believes that only Chase could have done this, then the 8th would be important as well.
That four day period is critical–and if Chase is having any difficulty explaining where he was for an entire four day period, this does feel significant. It’s especially damning if the 4th and the 5th are in question.
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Baker always gets things wrong (even when he’s close to being right). FYI a cell phone can still be traced even when turned off (a turned off phone still pings) you have to take the battery out of the phone to be untraceable. So if there are NO pings for Chase’s phone during key periods, especially Feb 4, this would be suspicious. If he just turned the phone off, and doesn’t want to talk to anyone, I don’t see that being as damning. (I turn my phone off all the time and I am not planning on killing anyone.) Unless, Chase turned his phone off the afternoon of the 4th.
In the Daily Mail interview Chase states he spoke to Joey a few times the afternoon after their Feb 4 meeting–so if Chase took the battery out of his phone, or he turned his phone off, how did he have these conversations? And if the phone registered as going to voicemail, even if the battery is in–this also raises questions.
3)
My theory (if Chase did this) is that something occurred at the meeting between Joey and Chase that set the murders in motion. There was a direct catalyst (though the incentive to kill them, may have been brewing for awhile). So my quandary has always been, why then do the murders happen at the McStay home, wouldn’t it be more likely that Joey was killed in Rancho–say at the warehouse, and then the Summer and kids were killed later?
The activity on Joey’s computer, related to finance (and again, I don’t trust the specifics dumbbell Baker gave, only the inference to be had), would explain why these murders would have occurred at the home, all persons killed around the same time. Joey was needed alive to assure that transactions would be completed. At the point someone decided to kill the family, they wanted to be certain first, that they could access whatever money was in accounts. (They failed in the long run, but this does not mean they didn’t try.)
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I’ve always believed that the Chase’s truck was used to transport the bodies. So it is now confirmed that my theory on this point, matches the State’s. I also believe that given how often Chase gets pulled over on traffic violations he couldn’t afford to have the bodies there for long, ergo the hasty burial, in an ill-appointed spot.
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The other nagging conundrum was the 7:47 sighting of the McStay Trooper–that gnawed at me. It messed with every theory I had. I don’t think it even matters much WHO’s vehicle was spotted at 7:47–just so as it wasn’t the McStay’s. But if that is Chase’s truck, that is especially damming, as he never claimed to be at the McStay home that day–so that is VERY significant.
That the McStay vehicle was not seen leaving the residence at 7:47 on that Thursday, means the Trooper could have been moved at any time. It didn’t have to be moved on Thursday. And also, even if Joey made it home that Thursday, the Trooper may not have.
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The BLOOD EVIDENCE–I’ll let you in on a secret, if I were ever going to kill someone, I’d plan home renovations and on the day I was to paint, I’d invite them over.
The McStays were smack dab in the middle of major renovations and painting. There is no material less likely to leak blood than a tarp (especially if it’s plastic)–it keeps paint off the floor. Blood might eventually seep through, but i would take a long while–if it ever did. The lack of blood has never hurt the State’s case for me. At all.
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WEAPON: Small sledge hammer fits the bill–it is absolutely the type of instrument that could wield a swift blow, felling someone immediately–doesn’t matter how caved in the skull might be, you still might not break skin significantly to where there would be much blood spatter. (Sorry to be so graphic.)
And I have done many home renovations–almost all the contractors I worked with have small sledge hammers around–perfect for breaking apart cabinets, etc. Handy tool.
I don’t think that just because Chase Merritt hated Summer, he killed the family.
The picture that does begin to come to light, though, regarding Chase’s view of that family–and this by way of Taylor’s interview—is of a man who didn’t so much care about his “best friend,” but saw this best friend as a means to an end.
Joey did care about these people, that they genuinely cared about him in return, isn’t apparent. AT ALL.
NO ONE, on the Merritt side has ever expressed, (EVER), profound regret at the loss of Joey or Joey’s family. If you care about someone, that is going to be paramount in all you communicate, when they are found brutally murdered. Because not only did Joey lose his life and what he treasured most–his family, he lost his legacy.
Not once have I ever heard from Chase, or anyone in that family, not even from Taylor, that they gave a damn Joey was gone and had everything taken from him.
Sure, they talk about how Chase’s life was devastated, but they don’t even speak of Chase missing this special friend.
Not once.
That the family appear to be insensitive oafs doesn’t mean Chase killed anyone. But you do see a portrait of the Merritt clan as self-absorbed, and perhaps a little cold and unfeeling.
And they chose Baker as an ally, so….there you go.
Oh and to Marilyn, you have a friend on your Facebook page, who clearly you are giving information to, who is loyal to the McStays–I know who she is–and you don’t even know it.
If you don’t even know who your facebook friends are, how are you going to know who the Bakers of the world are???!!!
Chase did it, alright. Baker’s impossible “spin” on what may or may not be facts (many probably are facts) only proves he will need to go with a major conspiracy theory to exculpate Chase. Normal people aren’t going to believe any conspiracy theory. Baker four or five followers sure will, but who cares what they think. We can presume much more rational people will be on the jury, and that this will almost certainly result in a conviction. Tell Baker to stop yapping about the CPS dude already, as the money manipulations on the computer are a dead giveaway what the motive was. I always wondered whether Joseph made it back home too (as commenter above) but kept reading that a prescription for his son was filled by him on the way home. If that bit is wrong, then he probably was killed in RC and never made it home. It probably was Chase showing up at the house. Justice has been years delayed in this case. They really should have had this all put together years ago. I still can’t process that part in Baker’s book about Chase claiming he went over to Saudi Arabia to finish the contract work as some sort of bullshit honor code thing (he alleges he spent his own money). Either he did that (and where did the payoff go?) or he told the sort of lie that can’t help but make detectives zero right in on a person. So which was it? Or did Baker just invent that? it seems unlikely that Baker would invent that, since Chase knew his ass was on the line with every word he spoke. But how could L.E. not have at least read Baker’s book and known this guy was the guy? I read the book and I realized instantly there were major problems with this man. He really should have been collared years ago. Baker has been useful to this case in one way: his complete lack of a conscience means he has released information indiscriminately. Unfortunately, you have to get rid of all the lies he includes in his information. And his ratiocinative skills are for shit. But why even speak of someone’s ratiocinative skills, when it’s clear the truth doesn’t matter to them, that the only thing that matters to them is maximizing attention for themselves? For example, i don’t doubt that Baker now knows Chase is guilty. But he knows it’s not in his interest to do a ‘Chase is guilty” blog, and so he does the other thing because it draws more attention. What horrible deaths they suffered. Most disturbing is the comment Chase allegedly made about seeing Summer’s genitalia, bragging about that. One might draw horrible conclusions from that (let’s hope it was postmortem). And I have no idea where Baker is getting that image of Joseph watching his entire family being slaughtered. There’s no evidence of that so far. He was probably killed first, as the greatest threat. That’s probably just Baker being lurid to get more traffic. Either way, no matter how this went down, there isn’t a punishment that’s going to be enough. About the time discrepancy Baker was focusing on with the vehicle leaving and the computer being monkeyed with: are we sure the time stamp on the security camera was set to “actual time?” Or that the computer was? Because that isn’t always the case. But then he might have those “facts” wrong. If that were proven to be true, then yes, there might have been an accomplice. But I wouldn’t put much weight on that until we have the facts and timeline. And as someone wrote here before (Maeve?)–if Chase was using to talk to Joseph “fifteen times a day,” why would the disappearance not have been a HUGE issue for Chase within the first twenty-four hours? These are minor quibbles, really, as this looks to be one of the strongest circumstantial cases you could wish for. Once again, it was the last person to see the victim alive. And Chase told the truth: “I was the last person Joseph saw.” The mind is so strange, the way those slips of the tongue happen. It is true that if Chase had an accomplice, he’s not going to tell us until it’s all said and done and he’s convicted. Then, sure, he might bargain for any little bit of “preferential treatment” and tell us who else was in on this evil.
Unfortunately, the evidence might also point to another suspect. UNLESS Chase’s vehicle is 100% identified on that surviellance footage.
Yes. I lean toward Chase being guilty, but I’m not 100% convinced. I do want to see the actual evidence before I reach a final conclusion. I can be swayed to believe in his innocence–I don’t like what his family is doing with Baker, but as distasteful as it is, it doesn’t make Chase guilty..
Well, if you believe “Bobby,” it’s not going to be a purely circumstantial case. So maybe he was referring to that. Or something just as concrete, tangible, definite.
David Call said that about 10% of the evidence is direct evidence. If that 10% is compelling enough, that’s all the DA needs. Lots of winnable cases have had less than 10% direct evidence.
One of the things that makes Chase look really suspicious is how he kept changing his story regarding that last telephone call from Joseph’s phone to his at 8:28 p.m.
Ah, the much disputed prescription story. Not sure where I first heard that, but I think it can probably be traced back to Baker. In fact, IIRC, LE supposedly told Patrick McStay that Joey had stopped for a prescription on his way home, and according to Baker, Patrick shared this information with him. Patrick has denied this, and Baker claims to have a receipt showing the purchase, although of course he has never produced it for anyone to see as proof that this story is true.
The other issue with this story that jumped out to me, is Baker’s claims that the alleged prescription was actually for one of Mikey’s children. He and the bakerbots have also proclaimed that to be truth, because they found evidence on Erin’s FB page that one of the kiddoes was indeed very sick around that time….even in the hospital, if memory serves. So my questions have always been, if in hospital, meds would have been given. If released with a prescription to be filled, and Mikey didn’t have the bucks, why would Joseph pick-up a prescription at a pharmacy near Fallbrook, when the child needing the medication is over an hour north? That makes no sense at all…..surely it could be arranged to be paid for with a CC over the phone at a pharmacy more conveniently located where Mikey or Erin could have then simply picked it up themselves.
Thanks for this. I always figured the meeting between Joseph and Chase turned violently ugly, and that once he had killed J.M., he realized there was no way he could just hide the body and everyone would think J.M. had gone missing. This is because Summer almost certainly knew that Joseph was going to have a very dicey, uncomfortable meeting with Chase. So if Joseph then suddenly disappears, Summer is going to say, “Chase did it!” So this is the reason for this tragedy. Once Chase’s anger had gotten out of control and he killed Joseph, he figures the ONLY way he’s going to be able to establish a mystery is if they all disappear. Summer would have gone right to the cops when Joseph didn’t come home. The other possibility is that Chase stewed after the meeting and then came to the house and killed them all. But I think it happened the former way. That prescription always threw me. I no longer believe it. More of Baker’s lies.
There is one more question to be answered though. There was a check that Joey deposited at the bank that day. It has apparently been confirmed that the deposit was made. It has been intimated that it was at a Rancho Cucamonga branch of the bank. It has also been intimated that the deposit was made AFTER the meeting with Chase.
This would have been one of the last, if not the last verifiable sightings of Joey alive. Hopefully this information, exact location and time, will be verified at the prelim.
Seriously, ask Baker about that Saudi Arabia allegation. Nobody seems to care about that “detail.” It’s not a minor thing. Either Chase flew over to Saudi Arabia as claimed in Baker’s book, (in which case where did the profits for McStay’s business go?) or he did not, and told a whopper of a lie there. I can’t believe he didn’t say that to Baker, because if Baker made up a lie that size that appeared to give Chase a money motive, why wouldn’t he have freaked out on Baker? But they stayed friends. Can you see Chase “using his own money” to fly over to Saudi Arabia and do this as an honor job? There had to be something in it for him. And why wasn’t L.E. all over Chase about either his 1) taking over the business and making a profit off it or 2) telling a lie this huge. You don’t get confused about whether or not you flew to Saudi Arabia. Nobody seems interested in this fact but me, and I can’t understand why not.
I have a couple of thoughts on the Saudi Arabia story. I think it comes from Chase talking to RB. The story of Chase using his own money to fly to SA and install a water fountain would serve Chase in that it creates an image of a credible business man with a valid passport who is able to come and go as he pleases. (When really he was just a two time excon heavily in debt and confined to the state of California.)
The second way in which the SA story serves Chase is, it flatters his ego. Arab metal workers and fountain builders are highly skilled craftsmen in a league of their own. Merritt could only dream of being included in that elite group of craftspeople.
In the interviews I’ve listened to where Merritt spoke about his craft he always inflated his ability and touted himself as the go to guy in America. Plain old narcissism, is how I see that story.
You’re probably right, fp. I find it hard to believe he actually went over there. But the lie should have triggered all sorts of alarms (maybe it did). Because that’s not a minor sort of lie to tell. And sociopaths lie all the time. Rick Baker prides himself on his investigative skills. If that was a complete lie, he sure screwed up on catching that. Normal people don’t tell lies that big. Maybe that tripped L.E.’s alarms. It sure should have. And, if he actually went over there, how much more so.
RB likes to tout himself as an “investigative journalist.” That’s about the extent of it. He has proven time and time again that he is too lazy to do even the slightest amount of actual “investigating.” He’s as big a narcissist as his buddy Chase.
It has been talked about on Baker’s blog very recently. This is after the blog became all about Baker’s new BFF Chase. Baker put up questions that Chase supposedly answered about the trip, which included dollar figures for payment(s) received there for expenses, etc., as well as what he had to go through to get the Visa to travel there. Some of it is clearly rubbish and easily debunked, but neither Chase or any Merritts have disputed any of it. I should clarify that by saying nothing has been posted by any Merritt to dispute it.
I’ve heard that Chase was on probation or parole at that time. If, in fact, that’s true I’m doubtful the powers that be would give approval for him to leave the country.
My guess is that law enforcement really wanted to steer clear of Baker as the most unsavory of characters and a man who lies constantly, but I still think that was worth an interview and possibly a subpoena. Even if Baker made that up out of thin air, Chase clearly gave tacit approval to what he published. You can’t tell me Chase didn’t read the book afterwards to see how he was being portrayed. So, either way, why wouldn’t L.E. have been asking Chase, “Did you or did you not tell Baker you flew to Saudia Arabia to complete a job contracted for by Mr. McStay’s business?” And if he went, where did the profits/payoff go? Even if some money went into the “business coffers” (doubt it and that is not stated anywhere, the amount of the job doesn’t match up with the other figures given in Bakers’s book, it’s too large) he could have pocketed the lion’s share. If he did not fly to Saudi Arabia and countenanced a lie this big going into print, how could he not have set off every alarm?
I’ve never actually heard Chase talk about that Saudi trip–not in interviews, or in any other way. The only time I’ve ever seen that trip mentioned was by Rick Baker. Maybe Patrick has addressed this matter?
But i’ve never read that, only read someone alluding to the fact that Patrick might have.
It’s very weird. Because if Chase didn’t even say that, and Baker just made it up out of thin air to make Chase “look good,” how could Baker and Chase not realize the potential for that to backfire horrendously? People can sometimes get away with lies that might be attributable to “fuzzy memory,” but you don’t forget whether or not you went to Saudi Arabia and did a job there. And if Baker totally just invented that, I still can’t believe Chase didn’t read the book to make sure he’s “safe” with nothing being “given away.” And then how would he not freak out? So if it’s a lie of the sort told by sociopathic narcissists (and agree with fp that it could fit the personality type) it must have freaked L.E. out in a major way. Because here’s a suspect saying they went to Saudi Arabia and completed a business job when no such thing was done. That’s a sociopath size lie right there. Unless it’s not a lie. In which case, there’s a big motive. Either way it makes him look totally guilty.
By the way, there is at least one Merritt–or strong Merritt friend (under a name not recognizable as being Merritt) who haunts the McStay pages–she is a member of almost all of them. She never comments–but I think I saw her at the last prelim—in pictures.
People do weird things on Social Media. Things we would probably never dream of doing in real life.
It makes sense, weirdly enough. She’s probably looking for anything that could help the case. Or maybe it’s just morbid curiosity, now that the families are forever “linked” by this horrible crime.It could even be “familial guilt.”
Maive- Who are you thinking of that never comments but you think was at the prelim? Can you send an email to Corn and ask him to forward it to me and I’ll do the same? I’d like to exchange email addresses with you but not publicly. Thanks!
I won’t name her, for the same reason I won’t name the woman who “friended” Norma. At the end of the day, it’s none of my business. But I think it’s important that people are aware this is being done.
However, that said, it’s not that difficult to spot who these women are. I’m not a genius. I happened on the info, on one of my google/facebook searches. I was curious who members were in a couple of groups–and boom, it was right there. Not difficult to spot at all.
You’re not talking about me, though, right? Someone else? Norma sent me a friend request and I accepted some time after the arrest, and we did talk for awhile but not anymore.
I think the Saudi Arabia story is very interesting. Clearly, how it has been portrayed by Baker raises several questions about its validity. The biggest thing for me, is that with all the hoops one must go through to actually travel to Saudi Arabia, there would be a very traceable trail to follow and thus very easily verified or debunked.
In fairly recent posts on the blob, while still maintaining that Chase used his own funds to this as an “honor job,” it was also stated/claimed that while there Chase received a rather hefty amount in per diem / expense money, which included payment for flights. So it wouldn’t seem, by his own admission, that he was out of pocket for the trip. But then he goes on to claim that the buyer(s) shorted him on the final payment.
And Chase was on probation until Oct. 2010. So did he get permission from his probation officer to leave the country? Did he take a chance and break probation?
I don’t think for one minute he went to SA. We’re talking about the guy who let Joey by him and his family dinner several times a month. The guy who probably stole or lied in order to buy his daughter a prom dress. If he doesn’t have money for a prom dress he sure doesn’t have money to go to SA, and this is assuming he was able to get a passport, etc.
Not sure if this is related or not, but early in the case Mike and Susan seemed pretty buddy buddy with Chase, then suddenly there was something written on the family website that seemed they had turned on him…something about him ripping Susan off for $5000. Maybe he conned her out of the money for the trip and either never went, or never returned the ‘borrowed’ money once he completed the job. Just a thought.
I don’t believe he went. I think he originally made up the story in order to bilk Susan and Mike out of $5k. Then the lie was out there and like many lies, took on a life of its own.
If he really went there, it’s huge to the case. If he didn’t go there, it’s huge towards establishing his sociopathic nature as a liar of magnificent proportions.
If he really did go over there, with Joseph McStay dead and no one to answer to, he would have been like a kid in a candy store. And you know the sort of money they lay out in that country for adornments like that.
Let’s ASK the horse’s ass…oops, I meant horse’s mouth. I bet Rick Baker will ignore this and won’t answer. Ask the dude: Did Chase go to Saudi Arabia or didn’t he? You’re supposed to know your shit, right? So did you totally miss a lie that big like an idiot? Or did he go over there (and there’s a huge motive). There’s no way he will answer this. Because he’s going to lose either way.
May 17th on the blob, by rick baker – I posted long ago the fact that Chase went to Saudi Arabia to complete the fountain. I have posted on my blog the invoice from the job and said that I have seen the stamp in his passport. I have posted that neither Mike nor Susan paid for his trip in any way.
It wouldn’t surprised me if this story came from Chase’s girlfriend – because that was what he told her while he was off screwing another woman.
Baker and Chase are such big liars that you have to investigate and question every statement they make. From the CNN interview with Randi, it doesn’t sound like work on the fountain had started – Chase says he needed a large check from Joey for the stainless steel company. And a contract still needed to be signed for 500 waterfalls deal.
If I contract someone to do some remodeling around my home and the fellow goes missing before the project begins – I’m going to find someone else to do the job, not one of his helpers who I didn’t negotiate with.
See my post above, Jordy…..it has been discussed on the blog recently with some “specifics.” I tried to post about it there, but because my post was questioning many of the specifics of the processes needed to travel to SA, my post was not allowed through. Go figure.
Exactly, if it’s “just” a Baker lie, then he would just ignore inquiries that were getting too close, as yours probably were. I mean from what we know about Baker and how he lies as easily as he breathes, it’s possible that Chase suddenly saw this for the first time in the book when it went to print. But Baker was still trying to play it relatively “straight” back then, and I don’t think he was pushing his lies all that far back then (as he clearly is now in his desperation). And if Baker did foist that on Chase, how could they have remained friends? You would think Chase would scream at him, “Dude, you just made it look like I have a huge motive for killing them!” So it’s very problematic, no matter what the truth of the matter is. A normal person would have come right out and said, “Baker lied about me in his book!” Because he should have smelled the danger in that to his own image and appearance of culpability. It can’t be easily dismissed. It’s significant. I think Chase actually did say that to Baker. Whether that was sociopathic narcissism or a truth, I don’t know. Either way, it’s significant.
Going with RB’s info, if to be believed, the Trooper was not driven back to Fallbrook. Or at least not parked in the driveway. As he put it, at 7:47 a white truck pulled out of the driveway and then stopped on the street next to another oncoming vehicle. So this kind of contradicts RB’s previous versions of events that Joseph did make it back to Fallbrook, bought gas and picked up a prescription. So where was Joseph and the Trooper?
LE has always stated that it was the Trooper that was caught on the video leaving the driveway. I don’t believe this would have been reported unless they were 100% certain. Some will say, “Yes but they also missed that they were killed at home”. Not so fast, most likely the weapon – among other things – found in the grave is most likely what led SBSB to determine this. So SDSO really didn’t “botch” anything.
Baker has this evidence but it’s flawed. He received it by someone who put a spin on it and he did some spinning of his own. “Forget about the dirt bike rider, he doesn’t exist”. He’s so incredibly stupid.
LE never stated that they knew that the vehicle captured on surviellance was the McStay’s vehicle. They said they thought it could be, but it was impossible to tell for certain.
It’s actually better for the State’s case if that vehicle can be identified as Chase’s truck. That would put Chase at place and time that would be VERY incriminating.
News reporters did often state that the vehicle was the McStay Trooper–but when LE was interviewed, they made statements like the one below from the Huffington Post.
“The family hasn’t been seen or heard from since Feb. 4, 2010. A neighbor’s surveillance tape shows the bottom of what looked like the McStays’ Isuzu Trooper.
Less than an hour after the footage was taken, Joseph made his last known phone call to an employee to follow up on a business meeting earlier that day.”
In fact it was either in the Vanished episode or Dissappeared where Dugal is very clear he doesn’t know if the vehicle in question was the McStays–they could only see the bottom 18 inches of the vehicle–that’s about a foot and a 1/2. Not much.
I always said that phone call was placed by Chase (not Joseph) using Joseph’s phone to establish a “ghost alibi.” That’s why he couldn’t be there to answer the phone. Can’t be in two places at one time.
I think there is definitely enough doubt and a lack of evidence about the prescription story. But I don’t think the same can be said of stopping to get gas. I have longed believed that the park & ride located right there at the exit off the I-15 that would have been taken to get to the McStay home may have played a role. Also conveniently located right there is a Mobil gas station. After having driven to Rancho Cucamonga and back, it certainly is possible that Joey would have stopped there for gas. If what we have seen of Joey’s phone records and where his phone was supposedly pinging from that day can be believed, that activity around 5PM that day puts him in the Fallbrook area. Or rather more accurately, it puts his phone in the Fallbrook area.
Certainly could have been Chase with Joey’s phone. But further to someone’s earlier comments about Summer, knowing that this meeting had a very real potential for unpleasantness shall we say, I think she would have started worrying and wondering if she wasn’t hearing from Joey by a certain time that day. Knowing that he has to take them all out, and also taking into account that the DA has indicated some sort of pre-meditation, I think Chase followed Joey’s route home and allowed him to at least get close to home, if not in fact home. Then the Trooper has been conveniently driven much closer to its ultimate destination, and by someone who should be driving it. If Chase really did carry the entire scenario out on his own, it would be a heck of a lot easier (and faster) to get back to the park & ride in Fallbrook using public transportation than having to get all the way back to the Rancho Cucamonga area.
So I am very curious about what exactly was captured on video that night, and to see how it has been interpreted.
Question: Is there such a thing as a PROFESSIONAL Craigslist writer????
Is there such a thing as a Craigslist “writer”, period?
Aren’t all posts on Craigslist written by people wanting to advertise something?
What does that even mean “amateur Craigslist writer”????
I think Anon 6:54 is spending way too much time on Craigslist, probably trying to hook up.
I love the way they suddenly remember the McStay victims–as an afterthought.
AnonymousJune 5, 2015 at 6:54 PM
Its Patrick or he’s employed a full time, amateur Craigslist writer to stalk this blog and post minute-by-minute rebuttals, posing as different people. Oft-times they steal exact language and text from posters on this site.
Each of the responses posted over there is the same exact syntax and tone. What a bunch of psychotic freaks. The so called loving family members of the deceased spewing vitriol and lies instead of doing something charitable. OR just, staying quiet.
I think it’s really funny when Rick posts comments as “anonymous” and tries to sound “ethnic.” I’m not saying that applies to this post, but I have seen him try to sound like different “backgrounds.” And it never quite comes off. He also creates fake Blogger profiles so it looks like it’s not all anonymous posters. But many of those Blogger profiles are clearly ruses (no blog, no info, created at the same time as the post or nearly, etc.) This “commenter” you’re quoting is probably Rick too. Most of the ones that involve real hate for the McStay family are Rick. Because not many other people are going to spew hate at the McStays. Most of them are going to be at least decent in that regard with recognizing these people as victims. Rick is the exception there. It’s funny that he’s convinced this is all McStay family members posting here. I’m not a member of the family and have never exchanged a single word with a one of them.
Rick, will you be discussing Chase’s semi-solid alibi today? Or maybe it’s best left unsaid until trial?

rick bakerJune 6, 2015 at 7:40 AM
No, I won’t here. It’s not really a big deal, but the DA will try to make it one.
Rick, are you expecting to be called as a witness by either the prosecution or defense?
rick bakerJune 6, 2015 at 9:00 AM
No, I don’t know anything.
rick : don’t trust LE, certainly not SDSD or SBSD, so I would never cooperate with any of them!
He’s in fine form today.
Just think of all the time wasted over the years sifting out the few grains of truth from all his bullshit and lies. Makes me want go scream!
That’s when he was with the McStays. Now he be representin’ Merritt! and can be a total bad ass
thumbing his nose at all things legal. LoL
He switches allegiances like a washer on agitate.
Remember that dude in India who befriended travelers? He gave them a place to stay and seemed like a swell guy? When the travelers got sick he would nurse them back to health. Eventually there was a whole house full of these sick travelers.
Turns out the guy was poisoning them and keeping them sick just to drain them of money.
RB reminds me of this guy.
Imagine how much clearer this entire case would be if all things Baker were taken out of the equation. His lies and bullshit have tainted this case in so many ways. Thank goodness he and his silly blog won’t make a bit of difference in the court room. Of course he wants his KoolAid drinkers to think he’s the ultimate authority on all things McStay, however, when it’s all said and done he truly is a nobody with nothing of importance to say. Oh what I would give to have his tapping little fingers paralyzed.
Nothing on these blogs is going to matter, unless they are used to impeach a witness, etc. OR someone confesses. But on the note of crazy out-of-court conjecture: Baker has no clue how a circumstantial case works.
rick bakerJune 6, 2015 at 3:18 PM
You about summed it up. They cannot tie the mini to Chase, cannot prove he was at the house the night of the 4th and the paint on the mini that they originally said came from the house, did not. Further, Chase can prove where he was on the 8th, and that is not even up for discussion, ironclad and pings, prove he was in RC. No proof.
If you see the dog pee on the floor, THAT is direct evidence.
If you walk in the room just as the dog leaves, and you notice pee on the floor–and no other animal or person has been in the house, and you can tell the pee is fresh, as it hasn’t begun to stain the linoleum, and you didn’t pee there–you can ascertain, beyond a reasonable doubt, that the dog who just left the room, was the very same who peed on the floor. THAT is circumstantial evidence.
Thanks to Rick, we can imagine what the State’s circumstantial case might very well be.
It seems probable, based on Baker’s statement, that Chase turned off his phone during the time period in which, Chase earlier claimed to have spoken with Joey, numerous times. It’s also reasonable to assume Chase can’t account for his whereabouts during this critical time–and that Chase cannot prove where he was the afternoon and evening of the 4th of Feb.
A vehicle resembling Chase’s was seen leaving the McStay residence at 7:47 the night of the disappearance. Even if the weapon is not a direct match to one positively known to be owned by either Joey or Chase, it is the type of instrument likely to have been owned by both parties. (Who would notice a tool like that, unless it was being used? Could have been laying in someone’s garage for months.)
Checks appear to have been written to Chase the night of the 4th.
How and when the Trooper got to the border isn’t certain. There were many possible times that the Trooper could have been left there—and the prosecution may believe it was left on a day other than the 8th.
The bodies were buried 7 minutes from Chase’s sister’s home–and Chase was in debt to Joey; he vocalized hatred for Summer; and his behavior at the time of the disappearance seems a little strange.
THAT is the beginning of a circumstantial case.
Is this case going to be strong enough to convince a jury beyond a reasonable doubt of guilt–don’t know.
But so far it’s actually quite compelling.
We may all hate Baker, but let’s not look a gift-horse in the mouth. He may have imparted some useful information to examine, before we get the actual evidence.
I get what you’re saying, Maeve, I just have a very difficult time believing anything that comes out of his flapping gums. He is a known pathological liar so how do we know when and what to believe? After the prelim if any of what he’s posted turns out to be truth then I might feel a little better about the veracity of his posts. Plus, we all know how he likes to spin things to serve his own purposes…
Does anyone else notice a certain weariness creeping into RB’s voice? I think he’s getting a little exhausted, because the posters here have turned his lying and the damage control that goes along with it into a full-time job. He was used to only putting in part-time hours in the past. And just think, Rick, Patrick is probably out having a really nice day. While you sit there at the computer chasing down the shadows of your lies. Who do you think is happier?
I’ve definitely seen a shift, Jordy. He appears to be getting more and more desperate for attention and relevancy. I think he figured out pretty quickly that if he didn’t attach himself to Merritt he and his blog would quickly disappear. Even his recent posts give the appearance of a desperate man. The CPS thread. Who does that to an innocent young man? A cowardly man desperate to be relevant and front and center, that’s who.
Yes, he quickly realized that would get him more attention. I think he’s wearing down though. The fantasy about becoming a hotelier clearly comes out of the realization that he’s totally polluted his own name and must leave the internet eventually. He’s really ruined his own name. And he has nobody to blame for it.
I also think the twitter thing was a bit of a miscalculation on his part…..while most of the world remains blissfully unaware of Baker and his “immensely popular” blog, those familiar with the McStay case and who have been waiting and watching for so long certainly know about him and his insertion of himself into this case. And those people aren’t letting him get away with a thing on twitter. He cannot control the conversation the way he can on his blog. Although he doesn’t always do that successfully either. LOL
So yes, I think all of his personalities have been on hyper drive for awhile now. Must be exhausting.
I love it that Baker is on Twitter. Once this case ramps up again, Baker will be exposed. Especially if he IS lying about any of the “factual” information he just posted.
Nurse 1: Are you going to go give him his meds or am I the unlucky one today?
Nurse 2: Oh Gawd, please not me. Can we flip a coin like yesterday?
Nurse 1: (Sigh). I guess.
Nurse 2: I just can’t bear going back in there and hearing him rant and rave again about…what’s the guy’s name?
Nurse 1: My Gosh, how could you ever forget? Michael McStay! He only says the guy’s name a thousand times an hour. He’s the Devil, Michael McStay, don’t you know?
Nurses giggle.
Nurse 2: Who’s that guy in the photo next to his bed? His son?
Nurse 1: No. Some guy named….Chase? Chase Meredith or Merriweather or something like that?
Nurse 2: What? His lover?
Nurse 1: No. Some guy on death row he has a crush on. They write to each other.
Nurses flip coin.
Nurse 2: Oh, somebody up there loves me. Hurray! You get to handle the old coot.
Nurse 1: Oh great. Now, I’ll have to listen to the guy in Depends call me a “hen” again. He’s not very nice, you know. Does he have any kids?
Nurse 2: I don’t think so. I’ve never seen a single one visit, if so. Or call. But then we don’t know the backstory there, do we?
Nurse 1: I don’t want to know the backstory.
Nurse 2: I know, right? Some people you just get that vibe. Anyway, put on cartoons. He seems to enjoy those.
Nurse 1: Anything so I don’t have to hear about Michael McStay again! His slippers were missing yesterday, and he insisted M.M. came in while he was asleep and stole them. I asked him who left that horrible mess in his bathroom. Apparently that was also Michael. No, that’s right, that was some guy named Patrick. He’s the other boogeyman.
Nurse 2: Never a dull moment around here.
Nurse 1: Don’t forget to fluff his WORLD’s BEST DAD pillow.
Nurse 2: Who bought him that?
Nurse 1: Oh, we took the residents on a day trip and he bought it for himself. Sort of sad, don’t you think?
Nurse 2: Oh no. I’m not even going to ask. Wish me luck. I need to put on my “Let’s pretend I like you” face now. See you in a few, doll.
Dorcas – I think I luv you!! Thank you for the piddle myself laughter! What’s really, really sad though, is I think you gave us a realistic view of his future. He has only himself to blame, oh and Mikey and Patrick. Lol
Maeve, you may correct regarding the Trooper and the video but Dugal has never stated “Well we don’t know for certain it was the Trooper”. Or did he? It’s been a while since I have seen the first documentary so I’ll review it later. But over the years I think that the video surveillance is probably the most perplexing piece in the whole case.
On another note, Baker claims the truck stopped with another vehicle yet is not on the tape. So we are supposed to go with it. Next he will say the other car was a black sedan.
Yeah. Everything Baker says I am wary of–only he’s been unusually consistent on this information, and strangely much of what he has posted in his statement about the prelim, lends itself more to proof of Chase’s guilt, than his innocence. Baker is unaware of this, because he only lets posts through that are in agreement with him.
So I’m inclined to believe him on this one. But it’s impossible to know until we get the real evidence.
I’ve been wondering about the whole Chick-fil-a thing. “His story is all over the place”. Maybe they determined he was lying about the restaurant (new video, they found no employees who remembered them) so perhaps the video is of Chase and Joseph at another restaurant or somewhere else.
Or there is more to the neighborhood video than we know about, which isn’t that much to begin with. I sure am hoping the perp is all over video somewhere that makes this case airtight!
Here’s a query–why hasn’t Baker mentioned the girlfriend? The one who was with Merritt at the time of the phone call at 8:28?
Now if she confirms being with Merritt when that call came in, Merritt could not have been the driver of the vehicle leaving the McStays at 7:47. It takes at least an hour to reach Rancho C from Fallbrook. And I don’t think a man transporting four dead bodies is going to risk speeding…..
What about that Baker? Any answers to that question?
Yes. There is nothing to corroborate the story. Maybe it is a neighbor who recalling seeing the truck and other car. I just can’t imagine after all these years and this is the first we’ve heard of it. But things like this happen in other cases, where decades will pass and someone remembers something crucial.
I think it’s always more interesting to listen closely to what people DON’T say, than what they do.
What we haven’t heard from the defense is that Merritt simply could NOT have committed these murders, because he has an airtight alibi. Certianly he should have an alibi for 8:28, given past statements by Merritt.
From his defenders, you only hear, really, that the state may not be able to prove their case.
You’re right, Maeve. Look how long and what it took for Merritt to finally say he’s innocent. When he finally did say the words they seemed so forced and insincere. If it were me I would have been screaming those two little words from the very first day!
We know from Steph Watts’ video that a neighbor saw a white truck at the McStays that night. That’s about all we know unless we consider the hearsay evidence from the wrestling board that was in circulation for awhile that a neighbor, after returning from a trip, went out to remove things from his vehicle and noticed the Trooper was gone.
I do think it’s interesting that the Baker-Merritt spin team is trying to bring an unknown 3rd party and vehicle into the timeline. Let me guess: It’s a mystery vehicle, and if only that party would come forward and corroborate what they saw, Charles could go home. Rick wouldn’t try and help manufacture evidence would he? No, couldn’t be.
I have some issues with the meeting. If Joey was indeed meeting Chase to break off their friendship, don’t you think summer would have been calling him constantly that afternoon? Or texting? “hey Joey, how did he take it?” “did you tell him you are finding another welder?” “did you stick to your guns?” “hello?” “Joey, I’m worried, what’s going on?”
I always thought chase may have killed Joey in ran no, but honestly I can’t get over summer not constantly texting him. Unless if chase had his phone and texted her, pretending to be joey, but phone records don’t say they texted, right? This would have been a huge meeting for Joey….there no way summer wouldn’t have known unless their marriage really was that bad and summer wasn’t a good woman.
Now he’s talking out of both sides of his mouth. Baker was always big about when the Trooper was actually parked in the lot, saying it could have been a day or two before. Now supposedly Chase’s phone pinged in RC when the Trooper was parked on the 8th. Hmm.
The other thing that struck me about that 8:58 comment, is that, that’s a lot of trouble to go to just to read a blog! We must be pretty special to warrant that kind of effort.
We won’t know anything for at least a week. It is fascinating though how the social media piece to all this has evolved and taken on a life of it’s own.
Again, none of this really matters. My weakness is I like to see if I can guess the end of the film when I’m in the middle, otherwise I’d just wait.
What makes us come back?
Baker is a study in the insanity of our on-line behaviour. Step back a little, it’s more fascinating than anything else.
What is fascinating to me is how Baker’s stories and opinions change with the tide. Whatever will garner the most attention or shock value is what he rolls with. He changes his wallpaper and statements more than his panties.
Somebody posted as you and accused Baker of the murders. I sent a post calling out that it obviously wasn’t you posting but of course Baker didn’t publish my comment. He likes drama and discord between his followers too.
Yes they posted as OEJ which is funny because OEJ should have used her blogger account to post. This reveals the type we’re dealing with. Not the sharpest tools in the shed.
On another note about accusing Baker of killing the family, it was ME who started that insinuation the Rick was involved. It was only done to show the absurdities of Rick’s and others accusations of Mike knowing they were dead or having something to do with it. Or that Joey was getting a prescription for Mike, or the best latest theory is that Mike used Summer’s credit card to shop at Ross.
Do you people even hear yourselves? It scares me to think YOU are a part of society.
The supposed video surveillance footage showing two trucks in the road…maybe this was filmed earlier in the evening. Maybe Chase was waiting down the street for Joey to get home and they met up in the road….the second video clip would be a truck leaving the driveway.
Just a thought.
I would be very surprised if a third witness and vehicle is involved. It makes no sense there would be. This would have been a very important witness if they existed.
Jane, I meant the video may show Joey in one vehicle, arriving home, and Chase in the second vehicle. Chase may have arrived before Joey and was waiting for him. Their two trucks stopped side by side in the road. Chase drove on to park and Joey pulled into the driveway.
Hope that’s clearer.
In reference to the Saudi Arabia trip, Sylvia said:
“I’ve heard that Chase was on probation or parole at that time. If, in fact, that’s true I’m doubtful the powers that be would give approval for him to leave the country.”
On 06-08-09, at 9:00 AM in the Alhambra courthouse, L.A. County, a $50,000 bail bench warrant was issued for Charles Merritt for failure to appear for a probation review report and probation violations stemming from two felonies he plead nolo contendere to in 2001.
His release status of being on his own recognizance and his probation were revoked. The court did not hear from Charles Merritt again until April of 2010.
So basically, at the time the McStay family were killed and the Saudi Arabia trip was done, Chase was on the run from the law and had a warrant for his arrest. You think Saudi Arabia let him in?
The Saudi trip never made sense. And he did complete his probation in October 2010—but in regard to the Saudi trip, no one has said WHEN Merritt was supposed to have taken this trip?
I don’t think this really matters to the case, unless Chase solicited money from Mike and Susan on the pretense he was going to take this trip to complete the work—this would speak to his motive with Joey.
Anything that shows Chase’s deception, especially as it relates to his work with EIP, may be relevant.
The problem with this case from a social media position is that so many ideas get floated out there, it’s hard to determine what is fact and what is pure speculation.
HOWEVER, I’m going to hazard a guess that what Baker claims the State’s case to be, is in the ball park of what their case is. It makes sense to some factual things we’ve been told by reliable persons.
What I think is true is that the State will say that Merritt turned off his phone around the time of the 1pm meeting with Joey and lied that he received the phone calls he claimed he did from Joey.
That Meritt turned off his phone knowing ahead of time what he was going to do. That he drove to the McStay residence, forced Joey to write checks for him, and killed the family–he then performed basic clean up, painted, etc. At 7:47, Merritt leaves in his own truck with the deceased McStay family in the bed of that truck.
The alibi Merritt has spoken of having for the 8:28 phone call, will be challenged if not completely dismantled. And Chase will be reported to have no alibi for important times in question.
It will then be speculated that for the next day or so Merritt looked for a place to bury the bodies and that he returned many times to the house both dissuade Mike and Susan from going there–with the reports of someone feeding the dogs, etc–and to do additional cleaning. And that the tracks at the graves COULD have been made by Merritt’s truck.
And there is lots lots more, I’m sure—That’s my guess.
The real paradox here is that Baker’s reveal doesn’t make Chase look innocent. It actually points to his guilt. It was like the interviews with Taylor—what she really revealed was motive.
I think there is going to a lot of focus on what Merritt has lied about, as well.
Again, this is not to say he is guilty. Other evidence may point away from his guilt. And I don’t think this case will be a slam dunk.
Cold Cases are very difficult to prove. So we’ll have to come to conclusions based on less than perfect evidence, and the jury will as well.
But this case is not likely to be dismissed for lack of evidence. They clearly have evidence. Whether it will prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt is uncertain.
I was reviewing the Young case ABC brought up. Very similar case, in some ways. They had a hung jury in the first round. So you never know.
Young may get a third trial. They are waiting on a decision from the appeals court. The victim’s poor family has been through the wringer and to think it may not still be resolved, ugh.
His redneck family and friends did the same thing Merritt’s family is doing with Rick. Went from crime board to crime board pointing the finger at her sister and mother. They posted about all this evidence that would come out at trial and the real killers would be revealed – never happened. Just maligned her family for years.
There you go. So far social media and actual real-life criminal procedure rarely intersect–except when LE gleans info from someone’s FB page (and they don’t have to get a warrant to do this, by the way); or someone like Dee Dee Moore, posts on a forum (what was she thinking).
All our theories etc, amount to nothing more than musings. But as long as no one is being harmed….what’s the harm.
I just think we have to make sure not to take ourselves too seriously. WE aren’t going to solve this crime. All we can do is guess.
They were posting at the old CTV boards, Websleuths, JQ, a couple of defunct proboards and a really old one which name I can’t recall, crime something or another. And in that case, like this one, other forums were created to counter the lies & viciousness they were posting.
I do remember the nic of the most vocal one, Gojo. He was a retired school teacher, neighbor of the mother of Young and his wife is her best friend. One of Gojo’s daughters and her husband, Jason’s older sister and her husband also commented heavily- I don’t remember the online names they used.
I doubt he even has a passport. Where would he have traveled to in the past – other than an out of county jail? From what I’ve seen there has not been a period of time in the last 2 decades that he didn’t have a bench warrant or was in jail. He can’t afford to pay his rent, traffic fines etc.. but he can afford to travel out of the country?
It’s simply not believable on any level once you really think about it. A convicted felon on the run, with a warrant for his arrest travels to Saudi Arabia on his own dime? He seems to be very invested in telling us how much he cared about Joey. This seems to be what the Saudi Arabia story seems to be trying to convey.
That’s a very valid point, Maeve. I was convinced that Merritt had mentioned it somewhere. I have been going back and looking at the print interviews that he had given, and I cannot find him mentioning it anywhere. In the interview that he gave to the Daily Mail after the bodies were found, he discusses the Saudi project but makes no mention of going to Saudi Arabia. He goes on to say that without Joey’s sales, everything collapses and he loses his business and splits up with his gf, the mother of his 3 children. He talks about trying to fulfill existing orders, but again, no mention of going to SA.
Makes the answering of those questions about that trip on Baker’s blog all the more interesting.
I agree dreamchaser–I think that Baker made the claim–and that’s where it begins and ends.
Because if Chase actually had gone to Saudi to “save the day” on that account, you would think he would mention this. Unless he left the country illegally–but he did that, why mention this, even to Baker?
I think Baker needs to lower his dosage of meds, scotch, or maybe BOTH.
I’m with you, Jane. I am very doubtful of this new information. From everything we have heard / been told about the footage from the house across the street, it showed very little. From what I have understood, they were able to determine that the vehicle had been backed into the driveway because it is thought that the headlights coming on coupled with the movement of the vehicle forward into the street is what triggered the camera sensors. But because of the angles of where the cameras were trained, only the very bottom portion of the vehicle can be seen….hence they have been unable to determine what vehicle it actually was (Chase’s truck or the Trooper?), or who was in the vehicle.
Upon further examination by the experts, it may be possible that they have been able to come to conclusions as to the type of vehicle based upon wheel base, etc. We have also been told that the video does show this vehicle turning to the left out of the driveway, which would be the direction one would take to exit the cul de sac. But catching the vehicle in the street after it pulled out of the driveway coming to a stop as another vehicle approaches so that the drivers can converse? How is this possible given what we have been told? Of course it is possible that LE has had this information all along and they simply have not told anyone. But my questions would be, after the vehicle leaving the McStay residence continues on, where did the other vehicle go? If this video footage shows as much of the activity on the street as Baker is implying, we should know much more about both of these vehicles. I have never heard of any footage that shows anyone arriving at the McStay residence…..if it did exist, then the questions about whether or not Joey actually made it home that day would be answered. But we have only heard about footage showing a vehicle leaving the house. The cameras were for security of the house across the street. Cameras would have been angled and trained so as to pick up activity occurring in and around the parameter of the house that they were meant to protect. Why would the camera(s) be trained on the middle of the street? That would mean anytime a car drove up or down that street, the sensors would turn the cameras on and the owner would have lots of footage of the street activity, which would serve no purpose. Makes no sense to me.
Rick specifically says in answer to a question, that the stopping to speak with the diver of the other vehicle occurred when the white vehicle was filmed leaving the house at 7:47PM, and there is no mention of any footage from earlier. I note with interest however, that in his bullet points about what he thinks the DA will present as evidence, there is no mention of this 2nd vehicle. If this new scenario is to be believed, it’s a bombshell! Why does he only allude to it when answering a question? For me, the inference is that it is someone Chase knows, and that it is this person who then proceeds to the house to get on the computer and try to hack into the financials.
The only place I’ve read that Chase Merritt went to Saudi Arabia is on Baker’s blog. I don’t remember if Baker also made this claim in his book–but I don’t recall Chase Merritt discussing this.
He certainly doesn’t mention this in the Daily Mail interview or on CNN.
Baker has an over-active imagination. This could all be Baker fabrication.
Ok, I just found a comment on another blog where the person posting says that the story about Chase going to Saudi Arabia to finish / fix the job appears in Baker’s book. So it indeed originated with Baker.
By the way, Dream, that Dateline episode you pointed to is fascinating. I’ve watched it a few times now–the science of cellular phone tracking is fascinating. I’m trying to find a book on it.
Nothing RB does surprises me anymore. What would be a surprise, if he would STFU and go away. I can’t even begin to imagine the torment the McStay Family members go through. I hope they are strong enough to keep it together and IGNORE this cold hearted, worthless, POS, a$$hole. RB and his antics….watch out, your day is coming. I really truly want to believe – what goes around, comes around. If that is true – RB has an enormous amount coming around. Time will tell, it always does.
It will come around. Dude’s been shooting himself in the foot his entire life. And with his victim mentality he continuously blames his failures on others.
Baker proves more and more with every new day what a real dick he truly is. What happened to him saying that he doesn’t think MM killed the family? He’ll post anything for a little bit of attention. Asshole!
Even his KoolAid drinkers don’t know how to follow his instructions. They are copying and pasting shit from his book. What a bunch of complete morons! LMAO!!!
ABC – Your comment made me choke on my Cheerios. He really is fucked if he’s relying on Baker and his group of lunatics. They all need to be on a 5150 hold until a verdict is reached, especially Baker.
Yeah they should have their own Batman style theme song…….Nana-nana Nana-nana, NUTJOBS!
Fear not: toothless Berta, beercan Jimbo, and company are here to save the day.
LOL. I can see the shitbox 1980 Camaros and Caprice wagons pulling up to the courthouse, backfiring, bad mufflers, anti-govt. bumper stickers and all. Hey a winner like Chase deserves a matching fan club, right?
rick bakerJune 7, 2015 at 8:03 AM
You may be right, but at least I am trying to do “the right thing,” in seeking justice for Joey and his family. What have you done?
Baker’s idea of doing the “right thing” is a puzzle. One I actually don’t care to solve, as it is completely lacking in humanity or reason, and I’m afraid that what lies beneath the riddle of the man, is worse than what we see on the surface . But here’s something I have wondered:
Rick Baker’s daughter, as I understand it (from Baker’s book) won’t even speak to him. The youngest son looks healthy and happy, but, as Baker admits, has spent very little time with his dad.
And the son who did get to spend time with Baker, has been troubled. (I do wish the best for all his kids)
And I’m not saying that they aren’t great kids. The children can’t help who their dad is–but this is an area where even Baker admits he has made mistakes. This must be difficult for Baker.
Baker, the failed dad, must be in anguish every time he observes a man who has succeeded where Baker just can’t seem to get it right.
No wonder he can’t stop trying to degrade Michael McStay (in any manner possible, even when it is clear that the attacks are baseless), Michael McStay is an awesome father-something Baker seems never to have been. And it is probably too late for him make up for lost time.
Horrifying to watch the abuse. Terrfying, actually.
Baker shows time and time again, his complete indifference to the well being of children and young people–and so it becomes easy to see how he might have treated his own chldren.
Baker is beneath contempt, but perhaps he is to be pitied.
It is hilarious to watch the dumb shits try to please their leader, unfortunately they are just too stupid to follow a simple instruction. Watching RB become unhinged over their lack of common sense (copying and pasting from his book) while he screams at them “bullet points, give me bullet points!” it’s simply priceless. With this group trying to help Chase I almost feel sorry for him. Almost.
I do too, ABC. It’s so damn funny because try as they might, they simply cannot comprehend what he’s asking for. Watch,they’ll start sending in pics of the tips of bullets. Bullet points. Roflmao!!
Commenter #78 & 79 has taken to posting more of Rick’s book. Thought they got message about that since it stopped for awhile.
If RB complies a circumstantial case against Mike it won’t be with his followers help….especially since he is only reading ones with bullet points, LOL.
I thought he said he wouldn’t post any comments of that nature and then he allows them through? Probably because the Bakerites are, on the whole, one taco shy of a combination plate.
OK he’s told them again use Bullet Points. I guess he’s going to let the book thing slide. He is really going to screw them up with that typo. What’s a Bulket?
rick bakerJune 7, 2015 at 4:04 PM
People! Post a Bulket Point with your comment! Stop pasting from my book without a bullet point!
LMFAO!! Up until this moment I had my suspicions about their ignorance but this whole post seals the deal. Rick must be in a frenzy. This really is better than a comedy show.
If that is a true number, probably a lot of people from Websleuths and JQ since he was so hell bent on outing a lot of them. Then there always folks who like to watch a train wreck.
He is there or just returned because he deleted his last comment about using bullet points. Count dropped to 83. LOL, he has probably been over here reading our snarky comments.
Oh dear. He went full caps lock on them! Hahahaha! He just bitch-slapped his own minions. They are probably cowering in the corner with pee-peed panties. I’m so glad I didn’t miss this.
Today I told myself I wasn’t going to waste a lot of time on the computer and catch up on some shows I taped. But this has been much more entertaining.
Question for any computer geeks we may have here. I have three different devices that I will go to this page on. Wouldn’t that leave three different IP addresses?
No You might want to check out a proxy, if you are nervous. I use a proxy. Or you can go to a cafe or something. Your home IP is actually in your modem–can’t change this without a proxy or changing out the modem
Cool, Maeve. I may do that. But I’ve never felt that him knowing my IP address was any threat. I’m doubtful he or any of his minions are able to obtain my physical address with my IP.
A follow-up question. When I’m using my phone data away from my WiFi, what kind of address would he get then?
The thing with IP addresses is that they only locate the vicinity of where you are–and who your service is with==they will also identify your computer type and your browser. So, really, only people who Baker knows–for example, where they are located—can he guess who’s IP address it is.
But for Baker to post an IP address along with someone’s identity and their physical address, I believe is illegal. But I’m not sure this would stop him.
Even though you are somewhat protected, it’s still a lot of info for Baker to have.
I also have an extremely common name. So I looked for myself in the city I live in. There are over 100 people with the same name. Feeling pretty anonymous. I also had a short mental movie of Arnold Schwarzenegger knocking on the door and asking “Are you Sarah Connor?”. LOL! (I may be a wee bit tired, but that tickled my funny bone.)
rick bakerJune 7, 2015 at 5:29 PM
MIKE MCSTAY THINKS YOU ALL ARE A BUNCH OF DUMB ASSES! I am getting many comments (that I am not posting) laughing at you all, and laughing at me. How hard can it be to follow one simple rule? BULLET POINTS. Do not post a comment to be used as circumstantial evidence in this thread WITHOUT A BULLET POINT! My gosh, people, are you all really that dense? I am going to go back and DELETE every comment that does not have the BP. I am appalled, I really am.
This is too much. I am howling with laughter, tears streaming down my face. And the two comments after he posted that still don’t get what he wants. It’s sweet to have Baker finally realize how freaking stupid his followers are.
A most excellent day on the blog. I don’t know who to give the internet high five of the day. The commenter that posted the link to grammar monster with the lesson on bullet points? Everybody here?
Perhaps, I should give it to good old Ricky. Seems he made a huge breakthrough today and realized he has the dregs of humanity for followers.
When he broke out the caps lock I could just picture him, hair standing up from running his hands through it, sweat on his upper lip, typing furiously while yelling out loud and casting spittle all over his computer screen. Epic and, yes you may dare Maeve, brilliant.
On the next episode of Monday night raw: the feeble cult followers band together and make a shocking face turn on their heel evil cult leader rick baker!
OK the count when he posted that last one was 104. Lets see how much he deletes. I’m sure he doesn’t want to leave those posts out there for anyone not reading to see that his minions are dunces.
*Dude, you just made my day.
*I was feeling kind of low.
*Watching you make this post thinking you were going to have fun.
*You finding out just how dumb your followers reall are.
*LMAO!!!!
They are unbelievable. One of them then has the stones to reply to that post and basically call him stupid. WHAAT- After a couple of hours of them proving how they can not follow instructions.
Here’s a couple I thought of-
Miss Penny barked at his picture.
Becky’s detective ears sensed deception.
I wouldn’t normally comment on this blog because a) I’m not convinced that Chase Merritt is guilty and b) I’m not convinced that Mike Mcstay is an innocent victim in all this, but there’s one thing I do know for sure. Rick Baker is bat shit crazy.
Dalina – You don’t have to have strong feelings one way or another to post here. Cornelius has always welcomed everyone and only asks that we be polite to each other. With that said… Welcome! And please feel free to join in on the fun.
I don’t really have feelings one way or another about MM. I’ve spoken to him a couple of times and have walked away thinking he just wants to put all of this behind him. The one thing I am always mindful of regardless of where I post is that in the end MM lost his family and Patrick is still his dad and might be reading the posts.
That’s very well said Just Me. I would be in that category of not really having feelings one way or another other than I think he has not come across well and has said things that seem odd, but I don’t think he’s involved one iota in any way. Who knows how any of us would act in front of the media, if you’re not savvy and can get tongue tied.
I’d be absolutely shocked if I found out that Chase didn’t do this.
Me too especially after reading about the Eyes For Lies chick. I think if Baker didn’t already have Dierdre on the side he and Eyes would be perfect together.
Looks like the “Everyone say something and I’ll make a book out of it” post has been deleted now. Wonder what time his predicable melodramatic “a hero like me can only do so much” post will go up.
One of them took him to task- ( I suggest 99% of them didn’t)
Anonymous June 7, 2015 at 7:01 PM
Rick, with all due respect, not everyone understands the concept of a “bullet point”. Therefore, they have no idea how to even begin. Understandably, you are trying to put something together, but YELLING AT THEM DOES NOT CHANGE THAT! 😦 It’s your blog, but
you are being very hostile towards many people who have posted
and stuck by you for a very long time. Maybe you need a Snicker’s
bar? You don’t seem like yourself today!
One Einstein cites Chase’s book. Oh yes, Mr. Honesty, Charles Merritt. I’m not sure how his story of Summer poisoning Joey translates into a case against Mike.
Ya missed watching it in real time. His meltdown is still online over there. He appears to have chilled out and accepted they are morons.
rick baker June 7, 2015 at 7:03 PM
7:01- Well, then I stand corrected if not everyone knows what a “bullet point” is. I would eat a Snickers, but then Becky would knock me up the side of my head for cheating on our organic diet. Sure sounds good though.
I’ve been trying to figure out a way to prove that Mike and Patrick don’t post here. I’m tired of Baker using them as the fall guys and giving them all the credit for our posts, especially the insanely funny ones. Any thoughts or ideas?
When you convince them Mike, Pat and Susan have nothing to with Joey’s murder.
We don’t have to wait for approval for our comments to go thru, so that ought to tell them we all aren’t in the same time zone. Plenty of times when people are commenting on this board, I’m in bed asleep, lol.
Yes. And we argue over here. CW92, allows for actual freedom of speech. If we were all the same commentator we wouldn’t debate key issues–unlike what happens on Baker’s blog.
That’s what I thought Maeve, he had to have known how hilarious it the thread is and even thought maybe was putting it out there to break the tension with a little humor. Seems now that it is done and taken by his followers in all seriousness. I didn’t think was possible but that makes it evermore hilarious.
Ha ha ha, they are indeed. They might want to also look up the meaning of circumstantial *evidence* because it doesn’t = gossip and innuendo.
Did anyone ever hear that radio interview that Chase Merritt gave where at one point he is asked a question and his answer was “I could tell you, but then I’d have to kill you”.
If he was using his phone, I wonder how well it is working now. Anyone seen the insurance commercial where it is little kids getting the run around and one little boy slams his phone to ground after hearing there is an hour wait time.
I wrote it in two words to express the concept of something being damned by God not as a curse word. I rarely engage in cussing, but I have no objections toward other people who do.
Does this person realize that their post actually works against Chase? He is saying clean looking Mike doesn’t dig holes his laborers do – While Chase is a real, getting dirty, hole digging male.
Just a comment on pics of Mikey and Chase above.
*Mikey is ‘posing’ double shaka hand gesture with clean clothes consisting of new tshirt (nicer than ones worn to court twice ) colorful long shorts spanking white tube socks and various sledge hammers to his right in photo. No doubt one of his ‘Mexican laborers’ (as Patrick calls Mikey’s day employees) was taking photo of “el jefe’.
*Chase looks like he is busy digging for gold dirty tired hot sweating and not up for photos.
Baker can’t decide who he’s biggotted against–first it’s people dwelling in trailers (many of whom have chosen a lower overhead so they can pursue other things, like trave, or retirement), then –“white collar” worker?. Actually, given the nature of Mike’s work, he’s kind of in the blue collar category–not that it matters.
No. No, there is not. It just skeeves me out to think that someone who may have committed this horrible crime has admirers. But then, Ted Bundy got married while on death row. Again, ew.
Chase told someone not long before his arrest that he usually goes out with much younger, slimmer and more beautiful women. He said several times to this person that his (Chase’s) g/f and a very close female relative of hers were “too fat.” Not nice at all.
I am not much of a drinker of alcoholic beverages…but that wine earlier has got me in an extremely good mood. Here’s to another one just like the other one 🍷🍷Whoo hoo!!
Here’s how this is going to work: By my estimates, and with some help from Google, there are about 31,000 people who come to this blog at least once a month. This number is based on IP addresses, which I know can be somewhat unreliable, but the number is still about 31,000. That means that we have assembled a massive investigative force right here, made up of thousands and thousands of citizen investigators!
Who are you kidding baker? Half of these visits are you, probably resetting your ip address multiple times a day, so you can look like you are someone. The rest are people who meant to search for the actual Rick baker, from Hollywood, mixed with your super intelligent followers, which we can count on our hands, and then the rest are likely random people who hear about the McStays & stumble on your blog mixed with people who use your blog for comedic purposes. You have not assembled a massive team of citizen investigators, you’ve assembled a massive team of flipping idiots who can’t figure out what you meant by “bullet points.” don’t you have some huge organic project you can tend to? Better yet, don’t. We need to teach these morons what a bullet point is.
“Now you’re rockin everyone! Keep the comments coming. I will compose into case file in the few days.”
Translation: It’s about time you effing idiots googled the meaning of bullet points and started using them! You made me look like a dumb-ass today and if it ever happens again, so help me God, I will fucking freak! Do you hear me? I WILL FUCKING FREAK!! You stupid morons! When I say bullet points, damn it I mean bullet points. Idiots. God damned idiots. Shaking my ever loving head AND rolling my eyes.
It’s going to take Baker a very long time to live this down. Lol
*i will compose into a case file right after Becky bitch slaps me and looks up an organic fruit that reduces blood pressure and induces feelings of tranquility.
Out of the 31,000 super investigative forces that post on a monthly basis, no one could help a brother out? I got you, super citizens of the RB blog!
YOU ARE:
-very welcome
-very slow
-very embarrassing
I just hope, for the love of Penny, that he asks for parentheses next. I am positive his page views would go to single digits on account of Baker thinking he is better than everyone else using big words.
The midgets had the bullet thing going for about three posts, then they gave up.
Too much work!! I guess.
It’s so much easier to pull ideas out of your ass, and put them forward with no thought or substantiation–then it is to present an organized theory and back is up with proof.
Most of the posts are rehashing ideas generated before the bodies were even found. And the theories, if you can call them that, are filled with that rubbish that was rampant a few years back–Why did MMcStay remove pics form an FB page?
Honestly people, who gives a flying….?!
If someone removing a pic from FB were indicative of a criminal act, we’d all be locked up. Good grief.
And how lazy does Rick Baker have to be to ask a bunch of strangers to give info on this case, anyway? Baker wrote a book on this case. He’s supposed to be the expert.
That, over there at that blog, is an exercise by the futile.
I’m the one who made the “Snicker’s” comment! I read here, but have never commented. This could be my last, not really a fan of verbal stoning! 🙂 I feel like a faux celebrity, for at least a few seconds today, ‘cuz one of my mental-midget posts made it to the blog! I am also not a blind follower, by the way. I have no idea if Chase is guilty or not, I would like to wait for more evidence. I am also not a MM fan.
However, I am one of those people who believes that
no one “ever” really knows someone, not even family
members. How many times have we seen a story
where a “loving” couple is taking a nice, scenic,
afternoon hike together, and then OFF you go, over
the edge of a cliff! “I thouuuuuught yoooooooou
luuuuuuuuuuved meeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!”
The End…Literally!
Off topic, but your comment reminded me of a case where the girlfriend “accidentally” pushed her boyfriend over a cliff. When detectives asked if he said anything during this, she said “Yeah,” he made “a loud annoying scream.” Gives me the shudders every time I think about it.
I don’t mean to be unkind when I call others mental-midgets (well, yeah, kind of I do). But there is a method to the madness.
I wish that people would apply more critical thinking to all this. Because as unkind as I might be, when I target those who refuse to use their brain, it is equally, if not more cruel to accuse others of crimes, with no proof or well established reason.
That’s why I point it out.
(And I hate Baker. So there’s that.)
To me a mental-midget isn’t in the DNA it’s in how one applies themselves.
(And did I mention that I hate Baker.)
But I’m glad you decided to come by. I’m not sure I caught the Snicker’s comment, but it’s great when someone comments from the other blog–even if they hate what we are doing.
The Snickers comment was in reference to a post that I made on the RB blog today. ABC reposted it here @445 pm. If you chose to reread what I wrote, it will make more sense…maybe! 🙂 The entire bullet point “assignment” and RB’s subsequent meltdown…didn’t set well with me…obviously! I understand BP’s, however, not everyone does. Honestly, he’s lucky to get some decent spelling, grammar and punctuation out of me! English was one of my better subjects, but it was along time ago.
AND IT’S JUST A BLOG lighten up! My first post about the infamous bullet point scandal was censored, imagine that. 🙂 I also understand your feelings toward RB…more than you think I do. Even though I grew up on a dairy, I don’t generally follow the herd! If that makes sense!
NotmRName (haven’t come up with an acronym for that yet),
I’ll look for the snicker comment.
Just an FYI, I am not actually a stickler for correct grammar (I goof ALL the time).
I’m a stickler for using your brain!—thinking about what you post before you post. Considering how what you post might impact another person’s life.
Baker never considers how his posts might impact anyone or anything. He doesn’t even care about those he claims to support, like Chase Merritt. Or those involved in this case, through no fault of their own, who are also young and vulnerable (if Baker considers any of this at all, I’m certain it is only with a design to harm).
It’s OK to say whatever you want, but if you are accusing someone of a crime, back it up with hard facts, and give a good reason–a well thought out reason, for what you are claiming to be truth.
Usually people who are thoughtful, write well. Because when your thoughts are clear your writing will follow.
That’s why so much of what is on Baker’s blog reads as gibberish. Because that’s exactly what it is: pure gibberish. No one has bothered to check their beliefs with facts. Hard, substantiated FACT.
So it’s really NOT the grammar I’m attacking. It’s the thought process behind it–or in the case of Baker and his mental-midget brigade, the LACK thereof.
But welcome. This isn’t an easy group over here on this blog, either. But those posting here, tend to be critical thinkers.
…or the case where the on and off again girlfriend (who he was trying to break up with) shoots him in the face, and tells the police during the interrogation that, “He was very vain and I gave him the nose job he always wanted!” Wow…
Just in case anyone would like a little RB diversion, for an hour or so, ABC’s 20/20 just aired the story of Shayna Huber last Friday. There are also quite a few online news stories about her bizzare behavior and lack of remorse during the interrogation. She has been dubbed “The Nose Job Killer”. It is very hard to wrap your head around, just like what happened to McStays. Senseless! 😦
She was actually found guilty, this past April. The jury didn’t fall for the “I shot him in self defense…defense.” She makes Jodi Arias look normal!
My post about the grammar, punctuation etc…was more about R and his response to folks not following his directions. Who knew bullet points could be so “maddening”! There was also someone who gets annoyed when posters use too many !!!!!! I have a dry/sarcastic sense of humor
sometimes and it doesn’t always translate well on paper. And, I have to say, that I thought CW’s, Bea Arthur casting of RB was hilarious! Sometimes you just need a good laugh and I laughed so hard and for quite awhile.
My dog started giving me the, “I’m
trying to nap here,” look!
Corn,
You (or someone else here) should make a new thread and have everyone post Rick Baker’s lies, then put the results in an ebook published on Amazon with everyone who posts as the author (sound familiar?). Now THAT’S a book I would read. 📚
I’m sorry if anyone is offended by my dislike of Baker and his followers. But they do not think. Period. They follow him like lemmings and it becomes very clear and funny as hell when he asks them to actually think on their own and not just mouth the words of their dear leader. (There’s that wonderful unintentional comedy)
Being local I’ve watched this story unfold from the very beginning. I’ve never ever felt that Mike and Susan were in any way involved with the family’s disappearance. Quite the opposite. I’ve watched those two shaking and crying and trying like hell to keep it together during interviews. Yes, Mike is not a public speaker. He’s not good with words at all. But to then have his words taken out of context and used as ‘proof’ of his involvement is downright hateful. So very ugly.
On the flip side is Chase Merritt who claims Joey was his best friend with not the slightest amount of sadness in his voice let alone red-eyed and teary as is the case with both Mike and Susan.
The best thing about this blog. We don’t have to agree. We also don’t need anyone to approve our comments. Put that in your pipe and smoke it Baker.
Thanks, Maeve. The large, beautifully painted sun is inside the classic Rosarito Beach Hotel’s restaurant. It’s one of my favorite places to stop for a meal when traveling down Baja California.
Nice post Sylvia! It is hateful. Mike and Susan were thrust into a missing persons case. In the beginning, I think they got a lot of their information from Chase Merritt, a guy who said he talked to Joey everyday and shared Joey’s personal secrets. Summer is poisoning Joey? Summer is lying, etc. CPS case? What did Merritt tell them in those first few days when everyone was searching for clues? Susan and Mike were scared and confused and desperate. Maybe they bungled a few things. Maybe Mike isn’t the most eloquent guy in front of a media camera but they don’t deserve to be constantly trashed before any of us know their story. Baker never cared about their personal loss or their grief. He needed to create drama and scandal around his book/blog and Mike and Susan were easy targets. Dan was an easy target too and Baker used all of them to make conspiracies and polarize people. He still is..
I think Baker is beginning to realize though, that his camp is not full of the most deep thinking, tech current people. They aren’t catching on to Twitter or blogtalk radio. Baker is still tied to his blog and he is getting frustrated. He wants to be a social media beacon ..the voice of the McStay murder trial when it finally gets underway. But, how can he attract attention and expand his empire with devotees who can’t even post using bullet points?! Haha!
All of your posts from this weekend are hilarious about Rick and the Bullet points. I haven’t even looked at Baker’s blog yet and I still LOL’d. I’m glad you were here to catch that ray of brilliance in action! Too funny!
One thing about this blog that is fascinating to me is anyone can post anything yet there have been only a few posts from Baker’s camp. Why is that? Are they afraid they’ll get a mental beat down? Are they really not capable of composing a few sentences without Baker? Are they afraid of being disloyal to their leader? Are they afraid of an ALL CAPS beat down from Baker if they stray? Are they not able to form an opinion of their own? To me, it’s very interesting and intriguing.
I’ve always wondered about that, too. To me, it shows a lack of dedicated engagement to his blog. Usually, when issues become polarized within a large group (Baker claims to have a large group), opposing camps are inundated with replies. The Stop Rick Baker blog was unmoderated, with few exceptions, for about a year, and I seldom received comments from Baker’s group. I still don’t.
He commands them not to come here and pay attention to Patrick and his hens. He does this constantly on his blog. WHen I was following him, he would say the same things to me when I would question him based on the truth from the blogs against him. His response was always to “not go on their blogs, and to pay to attention to Patricks hens.” lol
That means Rick G. Baker would have to sign up for numerous email addresses to post from various people here. Whereas he can simply ‘fake’ responses using anonymous posts on his own blog and then sign back in as himself to ‘approve’ them. It makes perfect sense to me.
Do you all know where the “drink the kool-aid” expression originated? “The phrase derives from the November 1978 Jonestown deaths…”
And if you know about that event, then ’nuff said.
That’s why allowing for a dissenting opinion is so important. To have your beliefs challanged is a good thing–keeps you honest. If you can adequately defend your position against an opposing viewpoint, then you know your reaasoning is sound. If you can’t….well then you might need to rethink things.
So, to address a dissenting opinion that I actually kind of agree with, only….can’t quite figure out what the point was, exactly:
AnonymousJune 4, 2015 at 1:11 AM
To Maeve and friends: This post is for you!
Rick can take care of himself, that is why he has the power over the “almighty” delete button. In fact, this post might not make it through!
However, I am the one who initiated the Motel 6 comment that led to the
thread. Sorry…I’m just a nobody, whose experience was just last week, by
the way! Not sure how many Motel 6’s are doing this, but it is still going on!
So, if you absolutely need to continue attacking someone about this, with your comedic, verbal “slosh” (I have no idea what that means, I just made
that word up) anyway, it should be my turn today! I am also not a “follower”, I don’t always agree with what is posted here. With that said, I asked the front desk person, if it was legal to send their guests DL info to local LE? …..
1:11AM goes onto give a list of criteria by which the Motel 6 employee claimed they would give his/her info over to authorities. It included the age of the vehicle one drives, etc. Honestly is sounded a little far-fetched. I haven’t stayed in Motel 6 in years, but I do stay at Best Western, and that’s only a notch above, and I’ve never been grilled, and my ride isn’t all that. And my dog doesn’t fit in my purse.
But to respond to 1:11AM
Slosh is a word. You didn’t make it up. It means “an act or sound of splashing.” If you were intending to insult me, maybe exchange “slosh” with “swill”. I’ll leave it to you to look “swill” up–but “comedic swill” would be much more insulting–or “comedic pigswill”, if you want to be specific about it.
My gripe with Baker’s post wasn’t so much that I am in disbelief that this type of violation of civil liberties happens, only that the article quoted has been updated, and to give a full representation of the matter, the updated article should have been presented as well. The practice mentioned was “officially” ceased. I’m with you on this, though–not sure I buy that.
One of the reasons I find Baker so reprehensible is that I actually work on civil liberties issues. I’ve even worked along side the ACLU. These matters are serious. And the work done around them is important. Rick Baker trivializes them to such an extent, that I believe he does more harm than good.
Motel 6 sucks. I too prefer at the minimum, Best Western. Just a notch above, but they are pricey enough to keep the riff-raff away. The one time I stayed in Victorville I got a room at the Hilton. While on the phone with the reservation agent he quoted me something like $120 for one night. I must have made a surprised sound because he asked me if that was okay and I replied with “Have you ever been to Victorville?”
My eldest child used to live in Helendale, just outside of Victorville so I’ve spent a bit of time there. But since she’s moved I’ve only been there once and that was to go out to the gravesite and take the track measurements and leave some flowers.
I know, Sylvia. When I attend the trial I am going to be staying in a motel or hotel, or something–maybe sublet for a month. I was kind of shocked by the rates there. I thought everything would be cheap–apparenlty not.
Do you think the trial will take an entire month? I was thinking to go for the two days or so of the prosecution’s opening statements. But then I’ll probably want to stay for the defense’s statement also. I can’t be gone for long.
I think this trial will last, possibly as long as 4 weeks. Maybe less, maybe 3. But given the nature of the evidence, we might have days and days of witness testimony–and if Chase takes the stand–his testimony could last two, three, maybe even four days.
The thread about the topless cop and the revealing photos he posted is a disgusting gabfest. This is a 6-year-old story.
Seems to me Baker’s down to the bottom of the barrel with his SBSD bashing. Plus, he needed something to draw attention away from yesterday’s embarrassing failure of a post.
And as it turns out the cop was taking a picture with his own wife. Not the smartest move for a public servant–but certainly not a violation of anyone’s civil liberties!!
This is what I mean about Baker trivializing very important issues. Baker wouldn’t know a civil liberties violation if it smacked him in the face, and deprived him of his own!
AnonymousJune 5, 2015 at 10:48 AM
Yes you are a willing pawn.
AnonymousJune 5, 2015 at 1:06 PM
Not a pawn, just a person respecting the laws of this country, in particular, the due process clauses of the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments.
AnonymousJune 6, 2015 at 3:16 PM
Thanks to Charles Ray Merritt the dead McStays weren’t afforded those same rights.
AnonymousJune 6, 2015 at 3:41 PM 3:16,
due process, remember…
For any people coming from out of town for the trial and will have a rental car I would suggest looking in to the Redlands area. Another nice area is Loma Linda and it has a teaching hospital so there’s a possibility of renting from a med student who’s probably never home. Stay far away from San Bernardino city, especially the area around the court house. Can’t say enough bad things about that area. If you’re a little adventurous you can check out the Palm Springs area but keep in mind that’s going to be an hour or so away from the court house. There are several really decent hotels around Ontario Airport which is about 30 minutes or so from the court house. If anyone finds accomodations and you want me to check it out just let me know. I’d be more than happy to help out my peeps.
Thanks for the info. Somehow I’d forgotten where the trial would be. Possibly because it’s all taking so long. The airport is a great idea. I’d be driving my own car. I have some medical issues that make driving from my home to the courthouse difficult. So I would want to be there the night before to get some rest. 30 minutes is doable for me.
It would be great if we all could stay in one hotel. I’d love to put faces with names. Perhaps sitting around a pool with a glass of wine.
I agree, Sylvia. Once it gets closer to the trial date maybe we can enlist Corn’s help. OR maybe it won’t go to trial and CM will fess up and take a plea.
Hi to all
My sister in law owns two properties on W Walnut Ave Rialto. All in total there are 10 bedrooms,she is thinking of renting the rooms out during the trial. She said she would charge $25 per room per night. Do you think people will be interested at all before she starts advertising.
Thank you for the kind offer. Will think about it.
This coming together at trial, of strangers who have followed and posted on this case (for years) has all the hallmarks of a truly intriguing Reality Show.
10 Strangers in one house–each with very definite views of the guilt or innocence of the defendant on trial. A trial they have all waited years for….
I know y’all detest me, but this sounds like too good a deal to pass up? Would you like to have the object of your affection nestled in your very bosoms? Ladies, I can dance too.
I’ll let you sign into my blog while we drink margaritas? I’ll let you make one free post too. As long as it’s not about Chase or Penny. Think of all the inquiring minds you will reach! I am staying at the Motel 6, by the way. For some reason, the roaches don’t come in my room.
While everyone is worrying over at the mental-midget-compound about an officer’s titty-shot of his own wife, Baker quietly took down the CPS post.
Doesn’t make you a good person, Baker.
Makes you a coward and an abuser of the basic principles of the civil liberties of a child and young person, for you to have ever posted it in the first place!
…tha father-of-the-year award is going to arrive at your doorstep, any day now—just keep hurting and abusing the privacy of children and young people—please, keep letting people see for themselves who you really are.
I didn’t know I had it in me to detest a person as much as I detest Baker, then again I’ve never encountered a person such as him. He truly sickens me!
I really don’t spend much time worrying about the bad guys. I’d rather focus on the good. But Rick Baker is in a category all his own.
That he would wish harm on a child, someone just coming into their own in life, that for me was a turning point in my view of this very old, very pathetic man–I feel the way about Baker that convicts appear to feel about child molestors and child killers: We all sin, but brother, I mean you, Mr. Baker your sins are worthy of a little extra attention.
Baker is a failed old man and a shitty father, who is willing to hurt anyone who happens in his path–even an innocent child. And the creepy part of it all is that he does so, not for fame or money, he attempts to harm the reputation of good people, for fucking hits to his ridiculous blog.
I went back last night and read the thread about him wanting to relinquish his parental rights, turn his back on his boys, all because he simply could not control their mother. I got so incredibly angry again but most of all I felt so sad for those two little boys that just wanted a daddy.
It’s my animal magnetism that brings you back again and again, ladies, admit it. If anyone would like to come over and have a private examination of my bullet points, I’ll be staying at the Motel 5. It’s this knockoff chain I found on Priceline. I know I said Motel 6 before, but I just found this cheaper one that comes with a community jaccuzzi. They give you a gallon of Clorox at the desk when you want to use it. You just pour it all around your body. Like a protective ring of fire.
Can’t wait. Commenters with analytical skills are my weakness, my downfall. I can’t stop reading them. Like a moth to the blog flame. I read your words and think, “Dayum!” Me think pretty too one day.
CHASE MERRITT AND THE MCSTAY FAMILY MURDERS 
Spot on with this one Corn!
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Yep. Merritt, who stated he didn’t want this played out in the media, blabbed to Norma, who, even though she was warned not to, ran to Baker and blabbed some more. And like everything else Rick gets his hands on….it turned to shite.
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Norma seems to be hanging in there with Rick. He doesn’t care how accurate the information is, anyway. He’s used to strange tall tales from time to time mixed in with an occasional truth of little significance.
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Shady.
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Interestingly, Charles wouldn’t even see his family for a few weeks not long after his arrest. He let the media in, though. Isn’t that strange? Then, he told them a boogey man came to see him – an enforcer type. Scary dude. But, he wouldn’t tell them what he said.
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He told his family an enforcer type dude visited him at the jail?
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According to Norma. Allegedly the scary man was “the chiropractor’s bodyguard”
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An errand runner taking care of things on the outside for Chase.
That’s one possibility I can think of.
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Maybe the more likely scenario was he was a debt collector. I bet Chase owed a lot of money and was/is making hefty monthly payments. Yikes.
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To visit, according to the rules, you have to schedule a visit 24 hours in advance. So why would Merritt meet with someone he has never heard of before? I would think the jailers give them option of visiting or not – or run it by them before they let them in the center. How can the family believe such nonsense.?
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In order to visit anyone at the jail the visitor has to leave a valid photo ID at the visitor’s “front desk”. A visitor will not be allowed inside without providing this. Period.
I don’t know why the chiropractor would have a body guard, that is hilarious! The chiropractor actually doesn’t think Merritt murdered the family.
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Oh that dude! I thought “chiropractors bodyguard” was a code or something…LMAO blushing.
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Things to make you go hmmm. Maybe the chiropractor knows more than he let on in the media (where he did trash Chase completely and state he’s sure he’s guilty). Blackmail possibilities?
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Really? Did the chiropractor change his mind? Because he’s on record (post-arrest article) stating that he thought Chase was guilty.
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I think it was B.S. Why would the chiropractor have a body guard who would go see Chase and frighten him so badly he would clam up and refuse to talk to his family? Someone made up that story. I’m just not sure who.
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Well, it’s surely on record who visited him, right? Would be strange if it was that guy’s bodyguard. Since that guy (chiropractor) trashed him in the press as a con man and thief and probably murderer. Makes you wonder if Chase and him (bodyguard) had some sort of friendship behind the chiropractor’s back. Maybe he’s another schemer like Chase. Or maybe Chase has contracted for him to do something shady for him while he’s in prison. This guy is so not looking like the fine, upstanding citizen he wants us to see him as.
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What was really surprising was hearing that Chase was receiving visits from the media during that time. I didn’t believe it until a reporter did a story on it not long after. Why would you not receive your family but would receive the media??
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Because he could get away with not answering any questions from the media? His family on the other hand he needed to BS about what evidence LE had on him and until he had a better handle on that, he needed to stall those visits.
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That’s what I was thinking too, ABC. He needed time to get the stories straight that he would then tell the family members.
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That’s what I thought. That’s why I called the “bodyguard” the “boogey man.” There is NO bodyguard. Come on, as you guys pointed out, you can’t just sneak in the back door and visit an inmate. You have to show proper I.D. I’m just saying that Baker’s sources are people Chase has a strong vested interest in lying to if he did this. He wouldn’t want his family or girlfriend to know he bashed two little boys and their parents to death.
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I don’t know if Chase did this, I still have a lot of questions that I hope the prosecution will answer the week after next, but I think I have a good read on what the State’s case is. And this is only because every time someone from the defense opens their stupid mouth, they confirm some aspect of my theory of the case (my theory of what happened IF Chase did this.)
1)
We now can be pretty confident that Chase’s alibi is weak–if he even has one. I would imagine it is weak for key days: Feb 4 & 5; Feb 6, maybe. I don’t actually think the 8th is that important—someone else could have driven the trooper to the border. But if the State believes that only Chase could have done this, then the 8th would be important as well.
That four day period is critical–and if Chase is having any difficulty explaining where he was for an entire four day period, this does feel significant. It’s especially damning if the 4th and the 5th are in question.
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Baker always gets things wrong (even when he’s close to being right). FYI a cell phone can still be traced even when turned off (a turned off phone still pings) you have to take the battery out of the phone to be untraceable. So if there are NO pings for Chase’s phone during key periods, especially Feb 4, this would be suspicious. If he just turned the phone off, and doesn’t want to talk to anyone, I don’t see that being as damning. (I turn my phone off all the time and I am not planning on killing anyone.) Unless, Chase turned his phone off the afternoon of the 4th.
In the Daily Mail interview Chase states he spoke to Joey a few times the afternoon after their Feb 4 meeting–so if Chase took the battery out of his phone, or he turned his phone off, how did he have these conversations? And if the phone registered as going to voicemail, even if the battery is in–this also raises questions.
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My theory (if Chase did this) is that something occurred at the meeting between Joey and Chase that set the murders in motion. There was a direct catalyst (though the incentive to kill them, may have been brewing for awhile). So my quandary has always been, why then do the murders happen at the McStay home, wouldn’t it be more likely that Joey was killed in Rancho–say at the warehouse, and then the Summer and kids were killed later?
The activity on Joey’s computer, related to finance (and again, I don’t trust the specifics dumbbell Baker gave, only the inference to be had), would explain why these murders would have occurred at the home, all persons killed around the same time. Joey was needed alive to assure that transactions would be completed. At the point someone decided to kill the family, they wanted to be certain first, that they could access whatever money was in accounts. (They failed in the long run, but this does not mean they didn’t try.)
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I’ve always believed that the Chase’s truck was used to transport the bodies. So it is now confirmed that my theory on this point, matches the State’s. I also believe that given how often Chase gets pulled over on traffic violations he couldn’t afford to have the bodies there for long, ergo the hasty burial, in an ill-appointed spot.
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The other nagging conundrum was the 7:47 sighting of the McStay Trooper–that gnawed at me. It messed with every theory I had. I don’t think it even matters much WHO’s vehicle was spotted at 7:47–just so as it wasn’t the McStay’s. But if that is Chase’s truck, that is especially damming, as he never claimed to be at the McStay home that day–so that is VERY significant.
That the McStay vehicle was not seen leaving the residence at 7:47 on that Thursday, means the Trooper could have been moved at any time. It didn’t have to be moved on Thursday. And also, even if Joey made it home that Thursday, the Trooper may not have.
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The BLOOD EVIDENCE–I’ll let you in on a secret, if I were ever going to kill someone, I’d plan home renovations and on the day I was to paint, I’d invite them over.
The McStays were smack dab in the middle of major renovations and painting. There is no material less likely to leak blood than a tarp (especially if it’s plastic)–it keeps paint off the floor. Blood might eventually seep through, but i would take a long while–if it ever did. The lack of blood has never hurt the State’s case for me. At all.
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WEAPON: Small sledge hammer fits the bill–it is absolutely the type of instrument that could wield a swift blow, felling someone immediately–doesn’t matter how caved in the skull might be, you still might not break skin significantly to where there would be much blood spatter. (Sorry to be so graphic.)
And I have done many home renovations–almost all the contractors I worked with have small sledge hammers around–perfect for breaking apart cabinets, etc. Handy tool.
I don’t think that just because Chase Merritt hated Summer, he killed the family.
The picture that does begin to come to light, though, regarding Chase’s view of that family–and this by way of Taylor’s interview—is of a man who didn’t so much care about his “best friend,” but saw this best friend as a means to an end.
Joey did care about these people, that they genuinely cared about him in return, isn’t apparent. AT ALL.
NO ONE, on the Merritt side has ever expressed, (EVER), profound regret at the loss of Joey or Joey’s family. If you care about someone, that is going to be paramount in all you communicate, when they are found brutally murdered. Because not only did Joey lose his life and what he treasured most–his family, he lost his legacy.
Not once have I ever heard from Chase, or anyone in that family, not even from Taylor, that they gave a damn Joey was gone and had everything taken from him.
Sure, they talk about how Chase’s life was devastated, but they don’t even speak of Chase missing this special friend.
Not once.
That the family appear to be insensitive oafs doesn’t mean Chase killed anyone. But you do see a portrait of the Merritt clan as self-absorbed, and perhaps a little cold and unfeeling.
And they chose Baker as an ally, so….there you go.
Not much more needs to be said on the matter.
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Oh and to Marilyn, you have a friend on your Facebook page, who clearly you are giving information to, who is loyal to the McStays–I know who she is–and you don’t even know it.
If you don’t even know who your facebook friends are, how are you going to know who the Bakers of the world are???!!!
Idiot.
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Who is Marilyn?
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Chase did it, alright. Baker’s impossible “spin” on what may or may not be facts (many probably are facts) only proves he will need to go with a major conspiracy theory to exculpate Chase. Normal people aren’t going to believe any conspiracy theory. Baker four or five followers sure will, but who cares what they think. We can presume much more rational people will be on the jury, and that this will almost certainly result in a conviction. Tell Baker to stop yapping about the CPS dude already, as the money manipulations on the computer are a dead giveaway what the motive was. I always wondered whether Joseph made it back home too (as commenter above) but kept reading that a prescription for his son was filled by him on the way home. If that bit is wrong, then he probably was killed in RC and never made it home. It probably was Chase showing up at the house. Justice has been years delayed in this case. They really should have had this all put together years ago. I still can’t process that part in Baker’s book about Chase claiming he went over to Saudi Arabia to finish the contract work as some sort of bullshit honor code thing (he alleges he spent his own money). Either he did that (and where did the payoff go?) or he told the sort of lie that can’t help but make detectives zero right in on a person. So which was it? Or did Baker just invent that? it seems unlikely that Baker would invent that, since Chase knew his ass was on the line with every word he spoke. But how could L.E. not have at least read Baker’s book and known this guy was the guy? I read the book and I realized instantly there were major problems with this man. He really should have been collared years ago. Baker has been useful to this case in one way: his complete lack of a conscience means he has released information indiscriminately. Unfortunately, you have to get rid of all the lies he includes in his information. And his ratiocinative skills are for shit. But why even speak of someone’s ratiocinative skills, when it’s clear the truth doesn’t matter to them, that the only thing that matters to them is maximizing attention for themselves? For example, i don’t doubt that Baker now knows Chase is guilty. But he knows it’s not in his interest to do a ‘Chase is guilty” blog, and so he does the other thing because it draws more attention. What horrible deaths they suffered. Most disturbing is the comment Chase allegedly made about seeing Summer’s genitalia, bragging about that. One might draw horrible conclusions from that (let’s hope it was postmortem). And I have no idea where Baker is getting that image of Joseph watching his entire family being slaughtered. There’s no evidence of that so far. He was probably killed first, as the greatest threat. That’s probably just Baker being lurid to get more traffic. Either way, no matter how this went down, there isn’t a punishment that’s going to be enough. About the time discrepancy Baker was focusing on with the vehicle leaving and the computer being monkeyed with: are we sure the time stamp on the security camera was set to “actual time?” Or that the computer was? Because that isn’t always the case. But then he might have those “facts” wrong. If that were proven to be true, then yes, there might have been an accomplice. But I wouldn’t put much weight on that until we have the facts and timeline. And as someone wrote here before (Maeve?)–if Chase was using to talk to Joseph “fifteen times a day,” why would the disappearance not have been a HUGE issue for Chase within the first twenty-four hours? These are minor quibbles, really, as this looks to be one of the strongest circumstantial cases you could wish for. Once again, it was the last person to see the victim alive. And Chase told the truth: “I was the last person Joseph saw.” The mind is so strange, the way those slips of the tongue happen. It is true that if Chase had an accomplice, he’s not going to tell us until it’s all said and done and he’s convicted. Then, sure, he might bargain for any little bit of “preferential treatment” and tell us who else was in on this evil.
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Jordy,
Unfortunately, the evidence might also point to another suspect. UNLESS Chase’s vehicle is 100% identified on that surviellance footage.
Yes. I lean toward Chase being guilty, but I’m not 100% convinced. I do want to see the actual evidence before I reach a final conclusion. I can be swayed to believe in his innocence–I don’t like what his family is doing with Baker, but as distasteful as it is, it doesn’t make Chase guilty..
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Well, if you believe “Bobby,” it’s not going to be a purely circumstantial case. So maybe he was referring to that. Or something just as concrete, tangible, definite.
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David Call said that about 10% of the evidence is direct evidence. If that 10% is compelling enough, that’s all the DA needs. Lots of winnable cases have had less than 10% direct evidence.
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And even circumstantial cases can be won. So ten percent is ten percent more than that.
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One of the things that makes Chase look really suspicious is how he kept changing his story regarding that last telephone call from Joseph’s phone to his at 8:28 p.m.
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Ah, the much disputed prescription story. Not sure where I first heard that, but I think it can probably be traced back to Baker. In fact, IIRC, LE supposedly told Patrick McStay that Joey had stopped for a prescription on his way home, and according to Baker, Patrick shared this information with him. Patrick has denied this, and Baker claims to have a receipt showing the purchase, although of course he has never produced it for anyone to see as proof that this story is true.
The other issue with this story that jumped out to me, is Baker’s claims that the alleged prescription was actually for one of Mikey’s children. He and the bakerbots have also proclaimed that to be truth, because they found evidence on Erin’s FB page that one of the kiddoes was indeed very sick around that time….even in the hospital, if memory serves. So my questions have always been, if in hospital, meds would have been given. If released with a prescription to be filled, and Mikey didn’t have the bucks, why would Joseph pick-up a prescription at a pharmacy near Fallbrook, when the child needing the medication is over an hour north? That makes no sense at all…..surely it could be arranged to be paid for with a CC over the phone at a pharmacy more conveniently located where Mikey or Erin could have then simply picked it up themselves.
I call BS.
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Thanks for this. I always figured the meeting between Joseph and Chase turned violently ugly, and that once he had killed J.M., he realized there was no way he could just hide the body and everyone would think J.M. had gone missing. This is because Summer almost certainly knew that Joseph was going to have a very dicey, uncomfortable meeting with Chase. So if Joseph then suddenly disappears, Summer is going to say, “Chase did it!” So this is the reason for this tragedy. Once Chase’s anger had gotten out of control and he killed Joseph, he figures the ONLY way he’s going to be able to establish a mystery is if they all disappear. Summer would have gone right to the cops when Joseph didn’t come home. The other possibility is that Chase stewed after the meeting and then came to the house and killed them all. But I think it happened the former way. That prescription always threw me. I no longer believe it. More of Baker’s lies.
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There is one more question to be answered though. There was a check that Joey deposited at the bank that day. It has apparently been confirmed that the deposit was made. It has been intimated that it was at a Rancho Cucamonga branch of the bank. It has also been intimated that the deposit was made AFTER the meeting with Chase.
This would have been one of the last, if not the last verifiable sightings of Joey alive. Hopefully this information, exact location and time, will be verified at the prelim.
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I didn’t know one of Mike’s kids was that sick. Maybe that is one of the reasons he wasn’t rushing over to Joey’s house.
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He actually said he was ‘definitely’ the last person to see him. I find that telling.
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What did Chase say about summers genitalia???
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According to the author Chase told him he had seen her’s.
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Seriously, ask Baker about that Saudi Arabia allegation. Nobody seems to care about that “detail.” It’s not a minor thing. Either Chase flew over to Saudi Arabia as claimed in Baker’s book, (in which case where did the profits for McStay’s business go?) or he did not, and told a whopper of a lie there. I can’t believe he didn’t say that to Baker, because if Baker made up a lie that size that appeared to give Chase a money motive, why wouldn’t he have freaked out on Baker? But they stayed friends. Can you see Chase “using his own money” to fly over to Saudi Arabia and do this as an honor job? There had to be something in it for him. And why wasn’t L.E. all over Chase about either his 1) taking over the business and making a profit off it or 2) telling a lie this huge. You don’t get confused about whether or not you flew to Saudi Arabia. Nobody seems interested in this fact but me, and I can’t understand why not.
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I have a couple of thoughts on the Saudi Arabia story. I think it comes from Chase talking to RB. The story of Chase using his own money to fly to SA and install a water fountain would serve Chase in that it creates an image of a credible business man with a valid passport who is able to come and go as he pleases. (When really he was just a two time excon heavily in debt and confined to the state of California.)
The second way in which the SA story serves Chase is, it flatters his ego. Arab metal workers and fountain builders are highly skilled craftsmen in a league of their own. Merritt could only dream of being included in that elite group of craftspeople.
In the interviews I’ve listened to where Merritt spoke about his craft he always inflated his ability and touted himself as the go to guy in America. Plain old narcissism, is how I see that story.
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You’re probably right, fp. I find it hard to believe he actually went over there. But the lie should have triggered all sorts of alarms (maybe it did). Because that’s not a minor sort of lie to tell. And sociopaths lie all the time. Rick Baker prides himself on his investigative skills. If that was a complete lie, he sure screwed up on catching that. Normal people don’t tell lies that big. Maybe that tripped L.E.’s alarms. It sure should have. And, if he actually went over there, how much more so.
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RB likes to tout himself as an “investigative journalist.” That’s about the extent of it. He has proven time and time again that he is too lazy to do even the slightest amount of actual “investigating.” He’s as big a narcissist as his buddy Chase.
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Yeah. There like to peas in a pod that way. Kinda creepy.
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Agreed, but I still want to know whose lie that was, Rick’s or Chase’s. Because it’s significant.
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It has been talked about on Baker’s blog very recently. This is after the blog became all about Baker’s new BFF Chase. Baker put up questions that Chase supposedly answered about the trip, which included dollar figures for payment(s) received there for expenses, etc., as well as what he had to go through to get the Visa to travel there. Some of it is clearly rubbish and easily debunked, but neither Chase or any Merritts have disputed any of it. I should clarify that by saying nothing has been posted by any Merritt to dispute it.
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Wonder why the subject wasn’t brought up in the troll!talk radio discussion with Taylor?
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If Merritt did lie about going to Saudi Arabia, does that mean he knew Joey wasn’t coming back to dispute his lie?
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I’ve heard that Chase was on probation or parole at that time. If, in fact, that’s true I’m doubtful the powers that be would give approval for him to leave the country.
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My guess is that law enforcement really wanted to steer clear of Baker as the most unsavory of characters and a man who lies constantly, but I still think that was worth an interview and possibly a subpoena. Even if Baker made that up out of thin air, Chase clearly gave tacit approval to what he published. You can’t tell me Chase didn’t read the book afterwards to see how he was being portrayed. So, either way, why wouldn’t L.E. have been asking Chase, “Did you or did you not tell Baker you flew to Saudia Arabia to complete a job contracted for by Mr. McStay’s business?” And if he went, where did the profits/payoff go? Even if some money went into the “business coffers” (doubt it and that is not stated anywhere, the amount of the job doesn’t match up with the other figures given in Bakers’s book, it’s too large) he could have pocketed the lion’s share. If he did not fly to Saudi Arabia and countenanced a lie this big going into print, how could he not have set off every alarm?
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Jordy,
That Saudi issue is intriguing. I wonder if it will be brought up at trial. Seems significant to me too, but I dont’ know if he went or not.
I’m with you though, I doubt Chase went to Saudi Arabia. He was on probation until around Oct. 2010—so he would have gone in October or later…..
I don’t know. Whole thing doesn’t make sense to me either.
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If he did go, he could have made a mint. If he lied, that was a huge lie right out in the open early on.
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I’ve never actually heard Chase talk about that Saudi trip–not in interviews, or in any other way. The only time I’ve ever seen that trip mentioned was by Rick Baker. Maybe Patrick has addressed this matter?
But i’ve never read that, only read someone alluding to the fact that Patrick might have.
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It’s very weird. Because if Chase didn’t even say that, and Baker just made it up out of thin air to make Chase “look good,” how could Baker and Chase not realize the potential for that to backfire horrendously? People can sometimes get away with lies that might be attributable to “fuzzy memory,” but you don’t forget whether or not you went to Saudi Arabia and did a job there. And if Baker totally just invented that, I still can’t believe Chase didn’t read the book to make sure he’s “safe” with nothing being “given away.” And then how would he not freak out? So if it’s a lie of the sort told by sociopathic narcissists (and agree with fp that it could fit the personality type) it must have freaked L.E. out in a major way. Because here’s a suspect saying they went to Saudi Arabia and completed a business job when no such thing was done. That’s a sociopath size lie right there. Unless it’s not a lie. In which case, there’s a big motive. Either way it makes him look totally guilty.
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By the way, there is at least one Merritt–or strong Merritt friend (under a name not recognizable as being Merritt) who haunts the McStay pages–she is a member of almost all of them. She never comments–but I think I saw her at the last prelim—in pictures.
People do weird things on Social Media. Things we would probably never dream of doing in real life.
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It makes sense, weirdly enough. She’s probably looking for anything that could help the case. Or maybe it’s just morbid curiosity, now that the families are forever “linked” by this horrible crime.It could even be “familial guilt.”
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Maive- Who are you thinking of that never comments but you think was at the prelim? Can you send an email to Corn and ask him to forward it to me and I’ll do the same? I’d like to exchange email addresses with you but not publicly. Thanks!
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I won’t name her, for the same reason I won’t name the woman who “friended” Norma. At the end of the day, it’s none of my business. But I think it’s important that people are aware this is being done.
However, that said, it’s not that difficult to spot who these women are. I’m not a genius. I happened on the info, on one of my google/facebook searches. I was curious who members were in a couple of groups–and boom, it was right there. Not difficult to spot at all.
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You’re not talking about me, though, right? Someone else? Norma sent me a friend request and I accepted some time after the arrest, and we did talk for awhile but not anymore.
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I think the Saudi Arabia story is very interesting. Clearly, how it has been portrayed by Baker raises several questions about its validity. The biggest thing for me, is that with all the hoops one must go through to actually travel to Saudi Arabia, there would be a very traceable trail to follow and thus very easily verified or debunked.
In fairly recent posts on the blob, while still maintaining that Chase used his own funds to this as an “honor job,” it was also stated/claimed that while there Chase received a rather hefty amount in per diem / expense money, which included payment for flights. So it wouldn’t seem, by his own admission, that he was out of pocket for the trip. But then he goes on to claim that the buyer(s) shorted him on the final payment.
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And Chase was on probation until Oct. 2010. So did he get permission from his probation officer to leave the country? Did he take a chance and break probation?
Did he go after Oct 2010????
Lots of questions here.
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I don’t think for one minute he went to SA. We’re talking about the guy who let Joey by him and his family dinner several times a month. The guy who probably stole or lied in order to buy his daughter a prom dress. If he doesn’t have money for a prom dress he sure doesn’t have money to go to SA, and this is assuming he was able to get a passport, etc.
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Not sure if this is related or not, but early in the case Mike and Susan seemed pretty buddy buddy with Chase, then suddenly there was something written on the family website that seemed they had turned on him…something about him ripping Susan off for $5000. Maybe he conned her out of the money for the trip and either never went, or never returned the ‘borrowed’ money once he completed the job. Just a thought.
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I don’t believe he went. I think he originally made up the story in order to bilk Susan and Mike out of $5k. Then the lie was out there and like many lies, took on a life of its own.
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If he really went there, it’s huge to the case. If he didn’t go there, it’s huge towards establishing his sociopathic nature as a liar of magnificent proportions.
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If he really did go over there, with Joseph McStay dead and no one to answer to, he would have been like a kid in a candy store. And you know the sort of money they lay out in that country for adornments like that.
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Exactly, Maeve. Lots of questions.
I would not think it would be possible to obtain the Visa needed if he were still on probation.
Oh, but I forgot the Princess called the consulate and made it all ok. 🙂
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Right, Chase had an in with a Saudi Prince and Princess!!!
Where are those dang members of Saudi royalty when you need them???!!!
Maybe the Prince and Princess are footing Merritt’s legal bills.
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Let’s ASK the horse’s ass…oops, I meant horse’s mouth. I bet Rick Baker will ignore this and won’t answer. Ask the dude: Did Chase go to Saudi Arabia or didn’t he? You’re supposed to know your shit, right? So did you totally miss a lie that big like an idiot? Or did he go over there (and there’s a huge motive). There’s no way he will answer this. Because he’s going to lose either way.
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May 17th on the blob, by rick baker – I posted long ago the fact that Chase went to Saudi Arabia to complete the fountain. I have posted on my blog the invoice from the job and said that I have seen the stamp in his passport. I have posted that neither Mike nor Susan paid for his trip in any way.
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ROFLMAO! The Princess called the consulate. Who would ever be dumb enough to say that and think it’s believable? Oh wait, Asshat, that’s who.
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It wouldn’t surprised me if this story came from Chase’s girlfriend – because that was what he told her while he was off screwing another woman.
Baker and Chase are such big liars that you have to investigate and question every statement they make. From the CNN interview with Randi, it doesn’t sound like work on the fountain had started – Chase says he needed a large check from Joey for the stainless steel company. And a contract still needed to be signed for 500 waterfalls deal.
If I contract someone to do some remodeling around my home and the fellow goes missing before the project begins – I’m going to find someone else to do the job, not one of his helpers who I didn’t negotiate with.
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Did Chase ever buy sheet metal from Bennett Merritt’s company, Renegade Steel, which was located in Hesperia?
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See my post above, Jordy…..it has been discussed on the blog recently with some “specifics.” I tried to post about it there, but because my post was questioning many of the specifics of the processes needed to travel to SA, my post was not allowed through. Go figure.
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Exactly, if it’s “just” a Baker lie, then he would just ignore inquiries that were getting too close, as yours probably were. I mean from what we know about Baker and how he lies as easily as he breathes, it’s possible that Chase suddenly saw this for the first time in the book when it went to print. But Baker was still trying to play it relatively “straight” back then, and I don’t think he was pushing his lies all that far back then (as he clearly is now in his desperation). And if Baker did foist that on Chase, how could they have remained friends? You would think Chase would scream at him, “Dude, you just made it look like I have a huge motive for killing them!” So it’s very problematic, no matter what the truth of the matter is. A normal person would have come right out and said, “Baker lied about me in his book!” Because he should have smelled the danger in that to his own image and appearance of culpability. It can’t be easily dismissed. It’s significant. I think Chase actually did say that to Baker. Whether that was sociopathic narcissism or a truth, I don’t know. Either way, it’s significant.
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Going with RB’s info, if to be believed, the Trooper was not driven back to Fallbrook. Or at least not parked in the driveway. As he put it, at 7:47 a white truck pulled out of the driveway and then stopped on the street next to another oncoming vehicle. So this kind of contradicts RB’s previous versions of events that Joseph did make it back to Fallbrook, bought gas and picked up a prescription. So where was Joseph and the Trooper?
LE has always stated that it was the Trooper that was caught on the video leaving the driveway. I don’t believe this would have been reported unless they were 100% certain. Some will say, “Yes but they also missed that they were killed at home”. Not so fast, most likely the weapon – among other things – found in the grave is most likely what led SBSB to determine this. So SDSO really didn’t “botch” anything.
Baker has this evidence but it’s flawed. He received it by someone who put a spin on it and he did some spinning of his own. “Forget about the dirt bike rider, he doesn’t exist”. He’s so incredibly stupid.
But I’m enjoying watching him get played.
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Actually Corn,
LE never stated that they knew that the vehicle captured on surviellance was the McStay’s vehicle. They said they thought it could be, but it was impossible to tell for certain.
Go back, review.
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It’s actually better for the State’s case if that vehicle can be identified as Chase’s truck. That would put Chase at place and time that would be VERY incriminating.
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News reporters did often state that the vehicle was the McStay Trooper–but when LE was interviewed, they made statements like the one below from the Huffington Post.
“The family hasn’t been seen or heard from since Feb. 4, 2010. A neighbor’s surveillance tape shows the bottom of what looked like the McStays’ Isuzu Trooper.
Less than an hour after the footage was taken, Joseph made his last known phone call to an employee to follow up on a business meeting earlier that day.”
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In fact it was either in the Vanished episode or Dissappeared where Dugal is very clear he doesn’t know if the vehicle in question was the McStays–they could only see the bottom 18 inches of the vehicle–that’s about a foot and a 1/2. Not much.
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I always said that phone call was placed by Chase (not Joseph) using Joseph’s phone to establish a “ghost alibi.” That’s why he couldn’t be there to answer the phone. Can’t be in two places at one time.
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I think there is definitely enough doubt and a lack of evidence about the prescription story. But I don’t think the same can be said of stopping to get gas. I have longed believed that the park & ride located right there at the exit off the I-15 that would have been taken to get to the McStay home may have played a role. Also conveniently located right there is a Mobil gas station. After having driven to Rancho Cucamonga and back, it certainly is possible that Joey would have stopped there for gas. If what we have seen of Joey’s phone records and where his phone was supposedly pinging from that day can be believed, that activity around 5PM that day puts him in the Fallbrook area. Or rather more accurately, it puts his phone in the Fallbrook area.
Certainly could have been Chase with Joey’s phone. But further to someone’s earlier comments about Summer, knowing that this meeting had a very real potential for unpleasantness shall we say, I think she would have started worrying and wondering if she wasn’t hearing from Joey by a certain time that day. Knowing that he has to take them all out, and also taking into account that the DA has indicated some sort of pre-meditation, I think Chase followed Joey’s route home and allowed him to at least get close to home, if not in fact home. Then the Trooper has been conveniently driven much closer to its ultimate destination, and by someone who should be driving it. If Chase really did carry the entire scenario out on his own, it would be a heck of a lot easier (and faster) to get back to the park & ride in Fallbrook using public transportation than having to get all the way back to the Rancho Cucamonga area.
So I am very curious about what exactly was captured on video that night, and to see how it has been interpreted.
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OK, I missed this jewel yesterday.
Question: Is there such a thing as a PROFESSIONAL Craigslist writer????
Is there such a thing as a Craigslist “writer”, period?
Aren’t all posts on Craigslist written by people wanting to advertise something?
What does that even mean “amateur Craigslist writer”????
I think Anon 6:54 is spending way too much time on Craigslist, probably trying to hook up.
I love the way they suddenly remember the McStay victims–as an afterthought.
AnonymousJune 5, 2015 at 6:54 PM
Its Patrick or he’s employed a full time, amateur Craigslist writer to stalk this blog and post minute-by-minute rebuttals, posing as different people. Oft-times they steal exact language and text from posters on this site.
Each of the responses posted over there is the same exact syntax and tone. What a bunch of psychotic freaks. The so called loving family members of the deceased spewing vitriol and lies instead of doing something charitable. OR just, staying quiet.
RIP Joey, Summer, Chubba and J Jnr
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Ahhh. The comedy on the Baker blog never stops.
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I think it’s really funny when Rick posts comments as “anonymous” and tries to sound “ethnic.” I’m not saying that applies to this post, but I have seen him try to sound like different “backgrounds.” And it never quite comes off. He also creates fake Blogger profiles so it looks like it’s not all anonymous posters. But many of those Blogger profiles are clearly ruses (no blog, no info, created at the same time as the post or nearly, etc.) This “commenter” you’re quoting is probably Rick too. Most of the ones that involve real hate for the McStay family are Rick. Because not many other people are going to spew hate at the McStays. Most of them are going to be at least decent in that regard with recognizing these people as victims. Rick is the exception there. It’s funny that he’s convinced this is all McStay family members posting here. I’m not a member of the family and have never exchanged a single word with a one of them.
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I’ve noticed that as well. You click on the blogger profiles and there is nothing there.
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Rick, will you be discussing Chase’s semi-solid alibi today? Or maybe it’s best left unsaid until trial?

rick bakerJune 6, 2015 at 7:40 AM
No, I won’t here. It’s not really a big deal, but the DA will try to make it one.
Rick, are you expecting to be called as a witness by either the prosecution or defense?
rick bakerJune 6, 2015 at 9:00 AM
No, I don’t know anything.
rick : don’t trust LE, certainly not SDSD or SBSD, so I would never cooperate with any of them!
He’s in fine form today.
Just think of all the time wasted over the years sifting out the few grains of truth from all his bullshit and lies. Makes me want go scream!
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Hey, look! He just admitted he doesn’t know anything!
Finally, a kernel of truth drops out of the liar’s mouth….
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Ugh!! its just his way of saying he can’t be held accountable for anything he says.
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DreamChaser, Apologies if that sounded rude. Wasn’t meant to be.
RB just chaps my hide something fierce.
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No worries, fp. I did not take that as rude…..I think we’re all in the same page here regarding our mutual distaste of the person in question. 🙂
But I do appreciate your thoughtfulness!
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“On” the same page.
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🙂
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Chase doesn’t have an alibi for the 4th and it is not a big deal. But Mike’s phone being shut off on the 8th is a big deal.
What I have picked up is that LE must know where Mike was on the 4th, since Baker didn’t put that in his list of facts.
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He wouldn’t cooperate with them? What about Gaffney?
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That’s when he was with the McStays. Now he be representin’ Merritt! and can be a total bad ass
thumbing his nose at all things legal. LoL
He switches allegiances like a washer on agitate.
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He name-dropped all of LE like they’d known each other their whole lives the entire investigation!!
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Rick, are you asking yourself questions and then answering them immediately?
rick: Yes, I am.
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ROFL!
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Remember that dude in India who befriended travelers? He gave them a place to stay and seemed like a swell guy? When the travelers got sick he would nurse them back to health. Eventually there was a whole house full of these sick travelers.
Turns out the guy was poisoning them and keeping them sick just to drain them of money.
RB reminds me of this guy.
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Imagine how much clearer this entire case would be if all things Baker were taken out of the equation. His lies and bullshit have tainted this case in so many ways. Thank goodness he and his silly blog won’t make a bit of difference in the court room. Of course he wants his KoolAid drinkers to think he’s the ultimate authority on all things McStay, however, when it’s all said and done he truly is a nobody with nothing of importance to say. Oh what I would give to have his tapping little fingers paralyzed.
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LMAO!!
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Nothing on these blogs is going to matter, unless they are used to impeach a witness, etc. OR someone confesses. But on the note of crazy out-of-court conjecture: Baker has no clue how a circumstantial case works.
rick bakerJune 6, 2015 at 3:18 PM
You about summed it up. They cannot tie the mini to Chase, cannot prove he was at the house the night of the 4th and the paint on the mini that they originally said came from the house, did not. Further, Chase can prove where he was on the 8th, and that is not even up for discussion, ironclad and pings, prove he was in RC. No proof.
If you see the dog pee on the floor, THAT is direct evidence.
If you walk in the room just as the dog leaves, and you notice pee on the floor–and no other animal or person has been in the house, and you can tell the pee is fresh, as it hasn’t begun to stain the linoleum, and you didn’t pee there–you can ascertain, beyond a reasonable doubt, that the dog who just left the room, was the very same who peed on the floor. THAT is circumstantial evidence.
Thanks to Rick, we can imagine what the State’s circumstantial case might very well be.
It seems probable, based on Baker’s statement, that Chase turned off his phone during the time period in which, Chase earlier claimed to have spoken with Joey, numerous times. It’s also reasonable to assume Chase can’t account for his whereabouts during this critical time–and that Chase cannot prove where he was the afternoon and evening of the 4th of Feb.
A vehicle resembling Chase’s was seen leaving the McStay residence at 7:47 the night of the disappearance. Even if the weapon is not a direct match to one positively known to be owned by either Joey or Chase, it is the type of instrument likely to have been owned by both parties. (Who would notice a tool like that, unless it was being used? Could have been laying in someone’s garage for months.)
Checks appear to have been written to Chase the night of the 4th.
How and when the Trooper got to the border isn’t certain. There were many possible times that the Trooper could have been left there—and the prosecution may believe it was left on a day other than the 8th.
The bodies were buried 7 minutes from Chase’s sister’s home–and Chase was in debt to Joey; he vocalized hatred for Summer; and his behavior at the time of the disappearance seems a little strange.
THAT is the beginning of a circumstantial case.
Is this case going to be strong enough to convince a jury beyond a reasonable doubt of guilt–don’t know.
But so far it’s actually quite compelling.
We may all hate Baker, but let’s not look a gift-horse in the mouth. He may have imparted some useful information to examine, before we get the actual evidence.
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I get what you’re saying, Maeve, I just have a very difficult time believing anything that comes out of his flapping gums. He is a known pathological liar so how do we know when and what to believe? After the prelim if any of what he’s posted turns out to be truth then I might feel a little better about the veracity of his posts. Plus, we all know how he likes to spin things to serve his own purposes…
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Does anyone else notice a certain weariness creeping into RB’s voice? I think he’s getting a little exhausted, because the posters here have turned his lying and the damage control that goes along with it into a full-time job. He was used to only putting in part-time hours in the past. And just think, Rick, Patrick is probably out having a really nice day. While you sit there at the computer chasing down the shadows of your lies. Who do you think is happier?
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I’ve definitely seen a shift, Jordy. He appears to be getting more and more desperate for attention and relevancy. I think he figured out pretty quickly that if he didn’t attach himself to Merritt he and his blog would quickly disappear. Even his recent posts give the appearance of a desperate man. The CPS thread. Who does that to an innocent young man? A cowardly man desperate to be relevant and front and center, that’s who.
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Yes, he quickly realized that would get him more attention. I think he’s wearing down though. The fantasy about becoming a hotelier clearly comes out of the realization that he’s totally polluted his own name and must leave the internet eventually. He’s really ruined his own name. And he has nobody to blame for it.
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I also think the twitter thing was a bit of a miscalculation on his part…..while most of the world remains blissfully unaware of Baker and his “immensely popular” blog, those familiar with the McStay case and who have been waiting and watching for so long certainly know about him and his insertion of himself into this case. And those people aren’t letting him get away with a thing on twitter. He cannot control the conversation the way he can on his blog. Although he doesn’t always do that successfully either. LOL
So yes, I think all of his personalities have been on hyper drive for awhile now. Must be exhausting.
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I love it that Baker is on Twitter. Once this case ramps up again, Baker will be exposed. Especially if he IS lying about any of the “factual” information he just posted.
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Scene from Rick Baker’s life in a nursing home:
Nurse 1: Are you going to go give him his meds or am I the unlucky one today?
Nurse 2: Oh Gawd, please not me. Can we flip a coin like yesterday?
Nurse 1: (Sigh). I guess.
Nurse 2: I just can’t bear going back in there and hearing him rant and rave again about…what’s the guy’s name?
Nurse 1: My Gosh, how could you ever forget? Michael McStay! He only says the guy’s name a thousand times an hour. He’s the Devil, Michael McStay, don’t you know?
Nurses giggle.
Nurse 2: Who’s that guy in the photo next to his bed? His son?
Nurse 1: No. Some guy named….Chase? Chase Meredith or Merriweather or something like that?
Nurse 2: What? His lover?
Nurse 1: No. Some guy on death row he has a crush on. They write to each other.
Nurses flip coin.
Nurse 2: Oh, somebody up there loves me. Hurray! You get to handle the old coot.
Nurse 1: Oh great. Now, I’ll have to listen to the guy in Depends call me a “hen” again. He’s not very nice, you know. Does he have any kids?
Nurse 2: I don’t think so. I’ve never seen a single one visit, if so. Or call. But then we don’t know the backstory there, do we?
Nurse 1: I don’t want to know the backstory.
Nurse 2: I know, right? Some people you just get that vibe. Anyway, put on cartoons. He seems to enjoy those.
Nurse 1: Anything so I don’t have to hear about Michael McStay again! His slippers were missing yesterday, and he insisted M.M. came in while he was asleep and stole them. I asked him who left that horrible mess in his bathroom. Apparently that was also Michael. No, that’s right, that was some guy named Patrick. He’s the other boogeyman.
Nurse 2: Never a dull moment around here.
Nurse 1: Don’t forget to fluff his WORLD’s BEST DAD pillow.
Nurse 2: Who bought him that?
Nurse 1: Oh, we took the residents on a day trip and he bought it for himself. Sort of sad, don’t you think?
Nurse 2: Oh no. I’m not even going to ask. Wish me luck. I need to put on my “Let’s pretend I like you” face now. See you in a few, doll.
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Brilliant!
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Dorcas – I think I luv you!! Thank you for the piddle myself laughter! What’s really, really sad though, is I think you gave us a realistic view of his future. He has only himself to blame, oh and Mikey and Patrick. Lol
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Maeve, you may correct regarding the Trooper and the video but Dugal has never stated “Well we don’t know for certain it was the Trooper”. Or did he? It’s been a while since I have seen the first documentary so I’ll review it later. But over the years I think that the video surveillance is probably the most perplexing piece in the whole case.
On another note, Baker claims the truck stopped with another vehicle yet is not on the tape. So we are supposed to go with it. Next he will say the other car was a black sedan.
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CW92,
Yeah. Everything Baker says I am wary of–only he’s been unusually consistent on this information, and strangely much of what he has posted in his statement about the prelim, lends itself more to proof of Chase’s guilt, than his innocence. Baker is unaware of this, because he only lets posts through that are in agreement with him.
So I’m inclined to believe him on this one. But it’s impossible to know until we get the real evidence.
No more continuances, please!
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You mean a black corvette? LOL
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Let’s not forget DA Ramos has stated they have surveillance video to support the arrest.
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I’ve been wondering about the whole Chick-fil-a thing. “His story is all over the place”. Maybe they determined he was lying about the restaurant (new video, they found no employees who remembered them) so perhaps the video is of Chase and Joseph at another restaurant or somewhere else.
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Or there is more to the neighborhood video than we know about, which isn’t that much to begin with. I sure am hoping the perp is all over video somewhere that makes this case airtight!
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I’m willing to wager Rick didn’t get anything right unless he accidentally guessed something correctly. His sources are completely unreliable.
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I agree.
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Did I miss something or is this the first we’ve heard about another car pulling up along side the Trooper?
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It’s the first we’ve heard. I don’t believe that part.
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Here’s a query–why hasn’t Baker mentioned the girlfriend? The one who was with Merritt at the time of the phone call at 8:28?
Now if she confirms being with Merritt when that call came in, Merritt could not have been the driver of the vehicle leaving the McStays at 7:47. It takes at least an hour to reach Rancho C from Fallbrook. And I don’t think a man transporting four dead bodies is going to risk speeding…..
What about that Baker? Any answers to that question?
Do tell.
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Yes. There is nothing to corroborate the story. Maybe it is a neighbor who recalling seeing the truck and other car. I just can’t imagine after all these years and this is the first we’ve heard of it. But things like this happen in other cases, where decades will pass and someone remembers something crucial.
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I agree.
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I think it’s always more interesting to listen closely to what people DON’T say, than what they do.
What we haven’t heard from the defense is that Merritt simply could NOT have committed these murders, because he has an airtight alibi. Certianly he should have an alibi for 8:28, given past statements by Merritt.
From his defenders, you only hear, really, that the state may not be able to prove their case.
Those are two very, very different things.
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You’re right, Maeve. Look how long and what it took for Merritt to finally say he’s innocent. When he finally did say the words they seemed so forced and insincere. If it were me I would have been screaming those two little words from the very first day!
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We know from Steph Watts’ video that a neighbor saw a white truck at the McStays that night. That’s about all we know unless we consider the hearsay evidence from the wrestling board that was in circulation for awhile that a neighbor, after returning from a trip, went out to remove things from his vehicle and noticed the Trooper was gone.
I do think it’s interesting that the Baker-Merritt spin team is trying to bring an unknown 3rd party and vehicle into the timeline. Let me guess: It’s a mystery vehicle, and if only that party would come forward and corroborate what they saw, Charles could go home. Rick wouldn’t try and help manufacture evidence would he? No, couldn’t be.
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I have some issues with the meeting. If Joey was indeed meeting Chase to break off their friendship, don’t you think summer would have been calling him constantly that afternoon? Or texting? “hey Joey, how did he take it?” “did you tell him you are finding another welder?” “did you stick to your guns?” “hello?” “Joey, I’m worried, what’s going on?”
I always thought chase may have killed Joey in ran no, but honestly I can’t get over summer not constantly texting him. Unless if chase had his phone and texted her, pretending to be joey, but phone records don’t say they texted, right? This would have been a huge meeting for Joey….there no way summer wouldn’t have known unless their marriage really was that bad and summer wasn’t a good woman.
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It’s quite possible that Joey muted his phone for the meeting. Constant interruption would be difficult to handle during a meeting.
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Rancho
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Now he’s talking out of both sides of his mouth. Baker was always big about when the Trooper was actually parked in the lot, saying it could have been a day or two before. Now supposedly Chase’s phone pinged in RC when the Trooper was parked on the 8th. Hmm.
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CW92
I am so jealous. My lover is focused on you now. Catch this jewel of a comment.
AnonymousJune 6, 2015 at 8:58 PM
8:39 CornBall is most likely somene writing for Patrick….Don your hazmat gear and step in bleach when you exit
http://rickgbaker.blogspot.com
Ok why would you don HAZMAT GEAR when you exit? If this blog is so toxic, shouldn’t you gear up before entering?
The mental-midgets strike again!
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The other thing that struck me about that 8:58 comment, is that, that’s a lot of trouble to go to just to read a blog! We must be pretty special to warrant that kind of effort.
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We won’t know anything for at least a week. It is fascinating though how the social media piece to all this has evolved and taken on a life of it’s own.
Again, none of this really matters. My weakness is I like to see if I can guess the end of the film when I’m in the middle, otherwise I’d just wait.
What makes us come back?
Baker is a study in the insanity of our on-line behaviour. Step back a little, it’s more fascinating than anything else.
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What is fascinating to me is how Baker’s stories and opinions change with the tide. Whatever will garner the most attention or shock value is what he rolls with. He changes his wallpaper and statements more than his panties.
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Flip flop, flip flop, flip flop.
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Just Me,
He’s a very strange guy. I study interviews etc. of killers, trying to get a read on what makes someone like that tick—Baker fits right in.
Allegedly.
Not saying he would kill, but he has the personality of a serial killer.
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Oh my gosh. I just got this comment over at Stop Rick Baker:
“AnonymousJune 6, 2015 at 6:29 PM
One-eyed-jack you accuse RB for murdering the family.
Are you for real. Where’s your facts to back up your claim?
You have lost the plot.”
I’ve lost the plot? This sounds like Kimmy, too.
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Oh dear. Poor girl.
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Jane,
You must have done something right to get a mention. I notice they only use our names when we’ve hit a Rick Baker-nerve.
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I’m not doing something right then because I haven’t had a mention in a very long time. I’m so jealous. Lol
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Oh, it will happen. They can’t figure out how to spell your name.
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OEJ
Somebody posted as you and accused Baker of the murders. I sent a post calling out that it obviously wasn’t you posting but of course Baker didn’t publish my comment. He likes drama and discord between his followers too.
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Oh thanks, Just Me. It’s like what I imagine an Insane Clown Posse concert to be over there.
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Yes they posted as OEJ which is funny because OEJ should have used her blogger account to post. This reveals the type we’re dealing with. Not the sharpest tools in the shed.
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I had a feeling that was a fake post.
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On another note about accusing Baker of killing the family, it was ME who started that insinuation the Rick was involved. It was only done to show the absurdities of Rick’s and others accusations of Mike knowing they were dead or having something to do with it. Or that Joey was getting a prescription for Mike, or the best latest theory is that Mike used Summer’s credit card to shop at Ross.
Do you people even hear yourselves? It scares me to think YOU are a part of society.
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CW92,
We’re all Patrick, haven’t you heard?
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Bahahahahahaha
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Let it be known, I am not posting for Patrick. I am posting for for the slain family and Rick.
And Rick is posting for Rick.
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The supposed video surveillance footage showing two trucks in the road…maybe this was filmed earlier in the evening. Maybe Chase was waiting down the street for Joey to get home and they met up in the road….the second video clip would be a truck leaving the driveway.
Just a thought.
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I would be very surprised if a third witness and vehicle is involved. It makes no sense there would be. This would have been a very important witness if they existed.
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Jane, I meant the video may show Joey in one vehicle, arriving home, and Chase in the second vehicle. Chase may have arrived before Joey and was waiting for him. Their two trucks stopped side by side in the road. Chase drove on to park and Joey pulled into the driveway.
Hope that’s clearer.
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This video would be from the same video surveillance camera that filmed the trooper driving away from the house the last time.
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Oh, I see what you mean, fp. It would be an incredible oversight for SDSD not to have seen something like this on the video.
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In reference to the Saudi Arabia trip, Sylvia said:
“I’ve heard that Chase was on probation or parole at that time. If, in fact, that’s true I’m doubtful the powers that be would give approval for him to leave the country.”
On 06-08-09, at 9:00 AM in the Alhambra courthouse, L.A. County, a $50,000 bail bench warrant was issued for Charles Merritt for failure to appear for a probation review report and probation violations stemming from two felonies he plead nolo contendere to in 2001.
His release status of being on his own recognizance and his probation were revoked. The court did not hear from Charles Merritt again until April of 2010.
So basically, at the time the McStay family were killed and the Saudi Arabia trip was done, Chase was on the run from the law and had a warrant for his arrest. You think Saudi Arabia let him in?
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Jane,
The Saudi trip never made sense. And he did complete his probation in October 2010—but in regard to the Saudi trip, no one has said WHEN Merritt was supposed to have taken this trip?
I don’t think this really matters to the case, unless Chase solicited money from Mike and Susan on the pretense he was going to take this trip to complete the work—this would speak to his motive with Joey.
Anything that shows Chase’s deception, especially as it relates to his work with EIP, may be relevant.
The problem with this case from a social media position is that so many ideas get floated out there, it’s hard to determine what is fact and what is pure speculation.
HOWEVER, I’m going to hazard a guess that what Baker claims the State’s case to be, is in the ball park of what their case is. It makes sense to some factual things we’ve been told by reliable persons.
What I think is true is that the State will say that Merritt turned off his phone around the time of the 1pm meeting with Joey and lied that he received the phone calls he claimed he did from Joey.
That Meritt turned off his phone knowing ahead of time what he was going to do. That he drove to the McStay residence, forced Joey to write checks for him, and killed the family–he then performed basic clean up, painted, etc. At 7:47, Merritt leaves in his own truck with the deceased McStay family in the bed of that truck.
The alibi Merritt has spoken of having for the 8:28 phone call, will be challenged if not completely dismantled. And Chase will be reported to have no alibi for important times in question.
It will then be speculated that for the next day or so Merritt looked for a place to bury the bodies and that he returned many times to the house both dissuade Mike and Susan from going there–with the reports of someone feeding the dogs, etc–and to do additional cleaning. And that the tracks at the graves COULD have been made by Merritt’s truck.
And there is lots lots more, I’m sure—That’s my guess.
The real paradox here is that Baker’s reveal doesn’t make Chase look innocent. It actually points to his guilt. It was like the interviews with Taylor—what she really revealed was motive.
It will be interesting to see.
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I think there is going to a lot of focus on what Merritt has lied about, as well.
Again, this is not to say he is guilty. Other evidence may point away from his guilt. And I don’t think this case will be a slam dunk.
Cold Cases are very difficult to prove. So we’ll have to come to conclusions based on less than perfect evidence, and the jury will as well.
But this case is not likely to be dismissed for lack of evidence. They clearly have evidence. Whether it will prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt is uncertain.
I was reviewing the Young case ABC brought up. Very similar case, in some ways. They had a hung jury in the first round. So you never know.
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Young may get a third trial. They are waiting on a decision from the appeals court. The victim’s poor family has been through the wringer and to think it may not still be resolved, ugh.
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ABC,
I’m not convinced in Young’s guilt. But it’s an interesting case. And it was 100% circumstantial, really.
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I have no doubts. He killed her.
His redneck family and friends did the same thing Merritt’s family is doing with Rick. Went from crime board to crime board pointing the finger at her sister and mother. They posted about all this evidence that would come out at trial and the real killers would be revealed – never happened. Just maligned her family for years.
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That case had a social media piece as well? Do you remember the blogs?
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There you go. So far social media and actual real-life criminal procedure rarely intersect–except when LE gleans info from someone’s FB page (and they don’t have to get a warrant to do this, by the way); or someone like Dee Dee Moore, posts on a forum (what was she thinking).
All our theories etc, amount to nothing more than musings. But as long as no one is being harmed….what’s the harm.
I just think we have to make sure not to take ourselves too seriously. WE aren’t going to solve this crime. All we can do is guess.
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They were posting at the old CTV boards, Websleuths, JQ, a couple of defunct proboards and a really old one which name I can’t recall, crime something or another. And in that case, like this one, other forums were created to counter the lies & viciousness they were posting.
I do remember the nic of the most vocal one, Gojo. He was a retired school teacher, neighbor of the mother of Young and his wife is her best friend. One of Gojo’s daughters and her husband, Jason’s older sister and her husband also commented heavily- I don’t remember the online names they used.
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I doubt he even has a passport. Where would he have traveled to in the past – other than an out of county jail? From what I’ve seen there has not been a period of time in the last 2 decades that he didn’t have a bench warrant or was in jail. He can’t afford to pay his rent, traffic fines etc.. but he can afford to travel out of the country?
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It’s simply not believable on any level once you really think about it. A convicted felon on the run, with a warrant for his arrest travels to Saudi Arabia on his own dime? He seems to be very invested in telling us how much he cared about Joey. This seems to be what the Saudi Arabia story seems to be trying to convey.
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I’ve actually never heard or read Merritt mention the Saudi trip, ever. Did you all see this in an article somewhere?
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That’s a very valid point, Maeve. I was convinced that Merritt had mentioned it somewhere. I have been going back and looking at the print interviews that he had given, and I cannot find him mentioning it anywhere. In the interview that he gave to the Daily Mail after the bodies were found, he discusses the Saudi project but makes no mention of going to Saudi Arabia. He goes on to say that without Joey’s sales, everything collapses and he loses his business and splits up with his gf, the mother of his 3 children. He talks about trying to fulfill existing orders, but again, no mention of going to SA.
Makes the answering of those questions about that trip on Baker’s blog all the more interesting.
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I agree dreamchaser–I think that Baker made the claim–and that’s where it begins and ends.
Because if Chase actually had gone to Saudi to “save the day” on that account, you would think he would mention this. Unless he left the country illegally–but he did that, why mention this, even to Baker?
I think Baker needs to lower his dosage of meds, scotch, or maybe BOTH.
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I’m with you, Jane. I am very doubtful of this new information. From everything we have heard / been told about the footage from the house across the street, it showed very little. From what I have understood, they were able to determine that the vehicle had been backed into the driveway because it is thought that the headlights coming on coupled with the movement of the vehicle forward into the street is what triggered the camera sensors. But because of the angles of where the cameras were trained, only the very bottom portion of the vehicle can be seen….hence they have been unable to determine what vehicle it actually was (Chase’s truck or the Trooper?), or who was in the vehicle.
Upon further examination by the experts, it may be possible that they have been able to come to conclusions as to the type of vehicle based upon wheel base, etc. We have also been told that the video does show this vehicle turning to the left out of the driveway, which would be the direction one would take to exit the cul de sac. But catching the vehicle in the street after it pulled out of the driveway coming to a stop as another vehicle approaches so that the drivers can converse? How is this possible given what we have been told? Of course it is possible that LE has had this information all along and they simply have not told anyone. But my questions would be, after the vehicle leaving the McStay residence continues on, where did the other vehicle go? If this video footage shows as much of the activity on the street as Baker is implying, we should know much more about both of these vehicles. I have never heard of any footage that shows anyone arriving at the McStay residence…..if it did exist, then the questions about whether or not Joey actually made it home that day would be answered. But we have only heard about footage showing a vehicle leaving the house. The cameras were for security of the house across the street. Cameras would have been angled and trained so as to pick up activity occurring in and around the parameter of the house that they were meant to protect. Why would the camera(s) be trained on the middle of the street? That would mean anytime a car drove up or down that street, the sensors would turn the cameras on and the owner would have lots of footage of the street activity, which would serve no purpose. Makes no sense to me.
Rick specifically says in answer to a question, that the stopping to speak with the diver of the other vehicle occurred when the white vehicle was filmed leaving the house at 7:47PM, and there is no mention of any footage from earlier. I note with interest however, that in his bullet points about what he thinks the DA will present as evidence, there is no mention of this 2nd vehicle. If this new scenario is to be believed, it’s a bombshell! Why does he only allude to it when answering a question? For me, the inference is that it is someone Chase knows, and that it is this person who then proceeds to the house to get on the computer and try to hack into the financials.
Again…..I am calling BS.
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I think your both right.
Well, at least it only took us a day or so to figure it was mostly likely bs.
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ABC,
Thanks for that info.
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The only place I’ve read that Chase Merritt went to Saudi Arabia is on Baker’s blog. I don’t remember if Baker also made this claim in his book–but I don’t recall Chase Merritt discussing this.
He certainly doesn’t mention this in the Daily Mail interview or on CNN.
Baker has an over-active imagination. This could all be Baker fabrication.
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Ok, I just found a comment on another blog where the person posting says that the story about Chase going to Saudi Arabia to finish / fix the job appears in Baker’s book. So it indeed originated with Baker.
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Dream,
That’s what I thought.
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By the way, Dream, that Dateline episode you pointed to is fascinating. I’ve watched it a few times now–the science of cellular phone tracking is fascinating. I’m trying to find a book on it.
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Since Rick isn’t receiving any attention from his first tweet about his prelim info – he has decided to try again.
Rick G. Baker @rickgbaker · 5m5 minutes ago
Who killed the McStay family? Chase Merritt or Mike McStay? #ChaseMerritt #McStay Gen. 4:8 http://rickgbaker.blogspot.com/2015/06/who-killed-mcstays-chase-merritt-or.html …
The bible verse in the tweet-
Genesis 4:8
8 Now Cain said to his brother Abel, “Let’s go out to the field.”[a] While they were in the field, Cain attacked his brother Abel and killed him.
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Wow. He went there.
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Nothing RB does surprises me anymore. What would be a surprise, if he would STFU and go away. I can’t even begin to imagine the torment the McStay Family members go through. I hope they are strong enough to keep it together and IGNORE this cold hearted, worthless, POS, a$$hole. RB and his antics….watch out, your day is coming. I really truly want to believe – what goes around, comes around. If that is true – RB has an enormous amount coming around. Time will tell, it always does.
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It will come around. Dude’s been shooting himself in the foot his entire life. And with his victim mentality he continuously blames his failures on others.
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Baker proves more and more with every new day what a real dick he truly is. What happened to him saying that he doesn’t think MM killed the family? He’ll post anything for a little bit of attention. Asshole!
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He’s losing his marbles!
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ROFL What an investigative journalist, he can’t even dig up his own info on Mike, he wants the kooks to do it.
“People, do some digging, don’t just use my book. There is much circumstantial evidence out there, don’t just copy my book.”
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Even his KoolAid drinkers don’t know how to follow his instructions. They are copying and pasting shit from his book. What a bunch of complete morons! LMAO!!!
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I know. Bunch of news articles and his book.
He posted in RED to use bullet points and even in comments told them to use it. Not one bullet point yet out of the 32 comments.
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So why bother insinuating it then and leading this pointless witch hunt?
“Now, no one here is claiming, or ever will claim, that he killed his brother and family”
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What Case? If this is what the defense has up their sleeve, a bunch of nutters from Baker’s blog, coming to the rescue, Chase is fucked.
“Only what we know to be true. Any comment that does not follow these guidelines will not be posted and might hurt our case”
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ABC – Your comment made me choke on my Cheerios. He really is fucked if he’s relying on Baker and his group of lunatics. They all need to be on a 5150 hold until a verdict is reached, especially Baker.
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Yes, the most recent post is proving to definitely be a Mental-Midgets-Magnet, they are stepping all over themselves to post.
And it’s all kind of looney-drivel–none of it makes any sense.
Oh well. The mentally impaired need some place to go where they can feel welcomed. Rick Baker’s blog is probably the place then
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“Our case”?? As if they are really going to have any impact on the outcome? Jeebus.
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Yeah they should have their own Batman style theme song…….Nana-nana Nana-nana, NUTJOBS!
Fear not: toothless Berta, beercan Jimbo, and company are here to save the day.
LOL. I can see the shitbox 1980 Camaros and Caprice wagons pulling up to the courthouse, backfiring, bad mufflers, anti-govt. bumper stickers and all. Hey a winner like Chase deserves a matching fan club, right?
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rick bakerJune 7, 2015 at 8:03 AM
You may be right, but at least I am trying to do “the right thing,” in seeking justice for Joey and his family. What have you done?
http://rickgbaker.blogspot.com
Baker’s idea of doing the “right thing” is a puzzle. One I actually don’t care to solve, as it is completely lacking in humanity or reason, and I’m afraid that what lies beneath the riddle of the man, is worse than what we see on the surface . But here’s something I have wondered:
Rick Baker’s daughter, as I understand it (from Baker’s book) won’t even speak to him. The youngest son looks healthy and happy, but, as Baker admits, has spent very little time with his dad.
And the son who did get to spend time with Baker, has been troubled. (I do wish the best for all his kids)
And I’m not saying that they aren’t great kids. The children can’t help who their dad is–but this is an area where even Baker admits he has made mistakes. This must be difficult for Baker.
Baker, the failed dad, must be in anguish every time he observes a man who has succeeded where Baker just can’t seem to get it right.
No wonder he can’t stop trying to degrade Michael McStay (in any manner possible, even when it is clear that the attacks are baseless), Michael McStay is an awesome father-something Baker seems never to have been. And it is probably too late for him make up for lost time.
Horrifying to watch the abuse. Terrfying, actually.
Baker shows time and time again, his complete indifference to the well being of children and young people–and so it becomes easy to see how he might have treated his own chldren.
Baker is beneath contempt, but perhaps he is to be pitied.
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What Baker is currently doing on the blog, WILL, backfire.
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I’ll drink to that! 🍷 No, it’s not too early…
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Cheers, Timekeeper! It’s never too early when Baker’s involved.
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You all are very funny. But in your case I’m laughing WITH–as opposed to Baker where, you know….AT!
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It is hilarious to watch the dumb shits try to please their leader, unfortunately they are just too stupid to follow a simple instruction. Watching RB become unhinged over their lack of common sense (copying and pasting from his book) while he screams at them “bullet points, give me bullet points!” it’s simply priceless. With this group trying to help Chase I almost feel sorry for him. Almost.
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45 comments and no bullet points. One of them is working hard on a case against Susan though.
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LOLOLOLOL – See he doesn’t read the crazy stuff they post.
“I do not have time wade through all the comments and compose my own bullet point.”
Up to 66 and no bullet points. I don’t know why I find the bullet point aspect so funny, but I do.
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I do too, ABC. It’s so damn funny because try as they might, they simply cannot comprehend what he’s asking for. Watch,they’ll start sending in pics of the tips of bullets. Bullet points. Roflmao!!
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Commenter #78 & 79 has taken to posting more of Rick’s book. Thought they got message about that since it stopped for awhile.
If RB complies a circumstantial case against Mike it won’t be with his followers help….especially since he is only reading ones with bullet points, LOL.
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I thought he said he wouldn’t post any comments of that nature and then he allows them through? Probably because the Bakerites are, on the whole, one taco shy of a combination plate.
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Sylvia,
One taco shy…. is write–oh I mean right. Can’t visit that blog much.
I swear Baker’s blot sucks the intelligence right out of you.
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OK he’s told them again use Bullet Points. I guess he’s going to let the book thing slide. He is really going to screw them up with that typo. What’s a Bulket?
rick bakerJune 7, 2015 at 4:04 PM
People! Post a Bulket Point with your comment! Stop pasting from my book without a bullet point!
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LMFAO!! Up until this moment I had my suspicions about their ignorance but this whole post seals the deal. Rick must be in a frenzy. This really is better than a comedy show.
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I know, ABC, it’s so funny. Even Baker has reached a point of exasperation with the mentally impaired who are attracted to his site.
31,000! Wow. Who knew there were so many idiots out there?
Who knew?
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If that is a true number, probably a lot of people from Websleuths and JQ since he was so hell bent on outing a lot of them. Then there always folks who like to watch a train wreck.
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Guilty. It’s hard not to look and watch the train wreck that is Rick Baker.
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Did he give up?
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I don’t know it has been hanging at 84 for a bit. I’m waiting to see if any of them use a bullet point.
About the only thing Rick may get that he request is a pic of MM’s truck.
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Maybe he’s putting a bullet point in his temple.
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He is there or just returned because he deleted his last comment about using bullet points. Count dropped to 83. LOL, he has probably been over here reading our snarky comments.
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OH NO – He is really frustrated. He has reposted his comment about bullet points IN ALL CAPS!
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Oh dear. He went full caps lock on them! Hahahaha! He just bitch-slapped his own minions. They are probably cowering in the corner with pee-peed panties. I’m so glad I didn’t miss this.
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Today I told myself I wasn’t going to waste a lot of time on the computer and catch up on some shows I taped. But this has been much more entertaining.
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Yeah, I’m glad I got my yardwork done before I saw all this!
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Question for any computer geeks we may have here. I have three different devices that I will go to this page on. Wouldn’t that leave three different IP addresses?
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I’ve wondered the same thing, Sylvia. Glad you asked.
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Sylvia,
No You might want to check out a proxy, if you are nervous. I use a proxy. Or you can go to a cafe or something. Your home IP is actually in your modem–can’t change this without a proxy or changing out the modem
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I’ve used Hidemyass—it’s a proxy service. I’m using a different one now. But it’s only about 8 dollars a month.
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https://invisibler.com/lulzsec-and-hidemyass/
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Cool, Maeve. I may do that. But I’ve never felt that him knowing my IP address was any threat. I’m doubtful he or any of his minions are able to obtain my physical address with my IP.
A follow-up question. When I’m using my phone data away from my WiFi, what kind of address would he get then?
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I don’t know for certain. That’s a good question. I have a feeling none. But I could be wrong.
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The thing with IP addresses is that they only locate the vicinity of where you are–and who your service is with==they will also identify your computer type and your browser. So, really, only people who Baker knows–for example, where they are located—can he guess who’s IP address it is.
But for Baker to post an IP address along with someone’s identity and their physical address, I believe is illegal. But I’m not sure this would stop him.
Even though you are somewhat protected, it’s still a lot of info for Baker to have.
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I live in a city of over 1.3 million. Guess away Baker. 🙂
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I also have an extremely common name. So I looked for myself in the city I live in. There are over 100 people with the same name. Feeling pretty anonymous. I also had a short mental movie of Arnold Schwarzenegger knocking on the door and asking “Are you Sarah Connor?”. LOL! (I may be a wee bit tired, but that tickled my funny bone.)
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Oh shoot me, one of them types – Building a case in bullet points against mikey circumstantially instead of chase:
And then proceeds to post her evidence without bullet points. And nothing to back it up either, lol
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OMG! I’m dying!!
rick bakerJune 7, 2015 at 5:29 PM
MIKE MCSTAY THINKS YOU ALL ARE A BUNCH OF DUMB ASSES! I am getting many comments (that I am not posting) laughing at you all, and laughing at me. How hard can it be to follow one simple rule? BULLET POINTS. Do not post a comment to be used as circumstantial evidence in this thread WITHOUT A BULLET POINT! My gosh, people, are you all really that dense? I am going to go back and DELETE every comment that does not have the BP. I am appalled, I really am.
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Rick is turning on his flock. What sort of people did he think was buying into his bullshit?
If I was one of those dummies right now, I would be pissed and tell him to find the shit himself.
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This is too much. I am howling with laughter, tears streaming down my face. And the two comments after he posted that still don’t get what he wants. It’s sweet to have Baker finally realize how freaking stupid his followers are.
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I’m right there with you, Sylvia. This is too funny!
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Yes RB because you are so much more intelligent than them all!!
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A most excellent day on the blog. I don’t know who to give the internet high five of the day. The commenter that posted the link to grammar monster with the lesson on bullet points? Everybody here?
Perhaps, I should give it to good old Ricky. Seems he made a huge breakthrough today and realized he has the dregs of humanity for followers.
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Sylvia,
I agree.
It’s absolutely spectacularly—-dare I say brilliant?!
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When he broke out the caps lock I could just picture him, hair standing up from running his hands through it, sweat on his upper lip, typing furiously while yelling out loud and casting spittle all over his computer screen. Epic and, yes you may dare Maeve, brilliant.
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On the next episode of Monday night raw: the feeble cult followers band together and make a shocking face turn on their heel evil cult leader rick baker!
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OK the count when he posted that last one was 104. Lets see how much he deletes. I’m sure he doesn’t want to leave those posts out there for anyone not reading to see that his minions are dunces.
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I hope this is someone trying to be funny (like from here) and not really serious. If it is serious, that’s just sad and scary.
* Mike’s fedora is seriously suspicious.
* His yoga poses match the typical sociopathic pose
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Just someone having fun at Ricks mental midgets expense. I’m loving this.
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This a good one someone slipped in!
*Dude, you just made my day.
*I was feeling kind of low.
*Watching you make this post thinking you were going to have fun.
*You finding out just how dumb your followers reall are.
*LMAO!!!!
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You beat me to it ABC. I’m thinking Ricky is pretty pissed at his little gang of internet trolls.
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They are unbelievable. One of them then has the stones to reply to that post and basically call him stupid. WHAAT- After a couple of hours of them proving how they can not follow instructions.
Here’s a couple I thought of-
Miss Penny barked at his picture.
Becky’s detective ears sensed deception.
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Exactly ABC. Oh, the irony.
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Beautiful! Freaking beautiful!!
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Yes, ABC, the fedora and yoga ones are tongue in cheek, as was the joke about his ironclad alibi, totally facetious 🙂
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It was very funny. After all the nutty theories that have been thrown around over there, it seemed like it fit right in to me.
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I wouldn’t normally comment on this blog because a) I’m not convinced that Chase Merritt is guilty and b) I’m not convinced that Mike Mcstay is an innocent victim in all this, but there’s one thing I do know for sure. Rick Baker is bat shit crazy.
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Yes. Yes he is.
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Dalina – You don’t have to have strong feelings one way or another to post here. Cornelius has always welcomed everyone and only asks that we be polite to each other. With that said… Welcome! And please feel free to join in on the fun.
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I appreciate that, Just Me.
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Completely agree!
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OMG Whoever posted it. this is hysterical. I’m copying it because I know will poof it.
Anonymous June 7, 2015 at 6:02 PM
*Rick making a simple request
*The KoolAid drinkers too stupid
*Have it play out for all to see
*PRICELESS!!
*This thread needs to be Tweeted
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Dang it! You beat me again. 🙂
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I was just thinking if I was having trouble deciding whether the post with the fedora comment was serious, I bet Baker will too.
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And this gem:
*Rick making a simple request
*The KoolAid drinkers too stupid
*Have it play out for all to see
*PRICELESS!!
*This thread needs to be Tweeted
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Yes. And I wish to see it.
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This is too good to be true!!!!
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I certainly hope Ramos, McMahon and Merritt’s dream team pop in on Baker’s blog today. You can’t make this stuff up.
Patrick – If you’re reading here today, Merry Christmas! This belly laugh is for you, my friend! : )
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This is all too funny. Oh, sorry I missed it.
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“Oh, there are a few pieces of their evidence that might be dicey for Chase”. That’s the understatement of the century, Rick!!!
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I expected “NO WIRE HANGERS!” to follow “I WANT BULLET POINTS!”
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Good one, Dalina! Lol.
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He’s starting to delete. We saw that coming.
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Oh dang, he’s deleting–did you all copy?
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Exactly, Just Me, it was a lot of fun. Now on to real life 🙂 Bat shit crazy is right Dalina, along with his mentally challenged Mike McStay haters.
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I might be mentally challenged then, because I’m definitely not a fan.
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I’m not a fan either, but I’m not a hater. Most of the haters have the most bizarre out there theories.
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I don’t really have feelings one way or another about MM. I’ve spoken to him a couple of times and have walked away thinking he just wants to put all of this behind him. The one thing I am always mindful of regardless of where I post is that in the end MM lost his family and Patrick is still his dad and might be reading the posts.
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That’s very well said Just Me. I would be in that category of not really having feelings one way or another other than I think he has not come across well and has said things that seem odd, but I don’t think he’s involved one iota in any way. Who knows how any of us would act in front of the media, if you’re not savvy and can get tongue tied.
I’d be absolutely shocked if I found out that Chase didn’t do this.
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Compared to the nitwits over on Baker’s blog, Mike is Dale Carnegie.
I’ve put down some of his behavior down to the laid back surfer lifestyle.
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Somehow I can’t see the DA putting together a case against a suspect based out what Eyes For Lies and another internet deception guru thinks.
* Mike Mcstay’s pressers have been subject to TWO EXPERT deception analysis experts that we are aware of. no one else:)
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That one made me sigh. And shake my head.
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Me too especially after reading about the Eyes For Lies chick. I think if Baker didn’t already have Dierdre on the side he and Eyes would be perfect together.
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HUH? I thought Scientology was really, really against drugs, including some prescriptions.
I still believe they were doing some Scientology cult type shit shit with the drug war somehow involved
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ABC – consider the source of the post. You cannot make sense of nonsense. It will make you crazy!
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I would like to submit the ‘I WANT BULLET POINTS!” tantrum as my nomination for Best Unintentionally Comedic Blog Comment 2015.
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Dalina,
I will second that.
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They’re still copying and pasting but putting an asterisk in front of everything. Wow, the stupidity never ends.
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I’ll second that Dalina.
Just Me, nope. It never ends.
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Looks like the “Everyone say something and I’ll make a book out of it” post has been deleted now. Wonder what time his predicable melodramatic “a hero like me can only do so much” post will go up.
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One of them took him to task- ( I suggest 99% of them didn’t)
Anonymous June 7, 2015 at 7:01 PM
Rick, with all due respect, not everyone understands the concept of a “bullet point”. Therefore, they have no idea how to even begin. Understandably, you are trying to put something together, but YELLING AT THEM DOES NOT CHANGE THAT! 😦 It’s your blog, but
you are being very hostile towards many people who have posted
and stuck by you for a very long time. Maybe you need a Snicker’s
bar? You don’t seem like yourself today!
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OMG,
ABC
That is hysterical.
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It’s still there, Dalina.
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One Einstein cites Chase’s book. Oh yes, Mr. Honesty, Charles Merritt. I’m not sure how his story of Summer poisoning Joey translates into a case against Mike.
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ABC,
OMG–I can almost visualize the point being made. I know is shouldn’t be funny, but it is.
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I stepped away and missed all the hilarity.
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Ya missed watching it in real time. His meltdown is still online over there. He appears to have chilled out and accepted they are morons.
rick baker June 7, 2015 at 7:03 PM
7:01- Well, then I stand corrected if not everyone knows what a “bullet point” is. I would eat a Snickers, but then Becky would knock me up the side of my head for cheating on our organic diet. Sure sounds good though.
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It’s not so much about the bullet point–although the asterisks substitute is priceless.
The point is that you can validate and substantiate your point.
So far over there at the mental-midget station the score is: Pure Speculation=100; Substantiation=0
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You mean you can’t call the Mars, Inc. princess and request an all organic version? Bet you Chase could.
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I’ve been trying to figure out a way to prove that Mike and Patrick don’t post here. I’m tired of Baker using them as the fall guys and giving them all the credit for our posts, especially the insanely funny ones. Any thoughts or ideas?
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When you convince them Mike, Pat and Susan have nothing to with Joey’s murder.
We don’t have to wait for approval for our comments to go thru, so that ought to tell them we all aren’t in the same time zone. Plenty of times when people are commenting on this board, I’m in bed asleep, lol.
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Yes. And we argue over here. CW92, allows for actual freedom of speech. If we were all the same commentator we wouldn’t debate key issues–unlike what happens on Baker’s blog.
There is real discussion here and real debate.
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Just Me,
He knows they didn’t post here. He’s just saying that. He WISHES there weren’t an entire team of people commenting on his lunacy.
Patrick and Mike have better things to do, right now—I’m sure.
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I feel that way too sometimes Just Me. I agree with ABC too. There are plenty of comments posted when I’m asleep.
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I’m so mad I stepped out. Though everyone’s comments are pretty priceless.
I hope there’s some left to view. Too too funny.
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He didn’t delete all the good parts. Thank goodness. These are jewels, I tell ya’. Jewels.
Too fucking funny.
I’m a big fan of the Comedy Channel and The Onion–Baker has got them beat, hands down.
Satire extraordinaire.
(I’m still laughing so hard I can barely type.)
Oh and the Onion wrote about Baker recently. I’ll post later.
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The Onion? Can’t wait to hear about it as I’ve never heard of it. Off to Google…
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Thank you so much for the recap!
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I wondered where you were Maeve. It was an epic Baker meltdown. Highly entertaining.
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I know. How dare I leave my computer. I hope someone was documenting. I can tell by what he left up, this may be the best Baker thread ever.
But your-all’s commentary was pretty funny, all on its own.
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Do you think he’s messing with us now? That the comedy has turned deliberate? How possibly can he not know how hilarious that thread is?
How possibly?
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Because RB is delusional.
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Well there is that, yes. Timekeeper. You make a good point.
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That’s what I thought Maeve, he had to have known how hilarious it the thread is and even thought maybe was putting it out there to break the tension with a little humor. Seems now that it is done and taken by his followers in all seriousness. I didn’t think was possible but that makes it evermore hilarious.
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Poppy,
The midgets are really trying. They are trying so hard!!! God love ’em.
Maybe one day, one of them will figure out what a bullet point is–I mean other than the one from a gun.
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That is, hands down, one of the funniest things I’ve read in ages. Baker has truly outdone himself.
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Ha ha ha, they are indeed. They might want to also look up the meaning of circumstantial *evidence* because it doesn’t = gossip and innuendo.
Did anyone ever hear that radio interview that Chase Merritt gave where at one point he is asked a question and his answer was “I could tell you, but then I’d have to kill you”.
Shall we run with that one…lol
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Ha! Yes. The pet blog radio interview. The interviewers response is a startled nervous laugh.
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BULLET POINTS, I SAID!
GIVE ME SOME GOD DAMNED BULKET POINTS!!!
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Omg hilarious!!!!
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Jane,
That’s too funny.
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If he was using his phone, I wonder how well it is working now. Anyone seen the insurance commercial where it is little kids getting the run around and one little boy slams his phone to ground after hearing there is an hour wait time.
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Too perfect Jane. LOL!
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Hate when people say GD, just saying.
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I wrote it in two words to express the concept of something being damned by God not as a curse word. I rarely engage in cussing, but I have no objections toward other people who do.
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I still can’t get over how funny this is, Jane. We must have a repeat!!!!
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Does this person realize that their post actually works against Chase? He is saying clean looking Mike doesn’t dig holes his laborers do – While Chase is a real, getting dirty, hole digging male.
Just a comment on pics of Mikey and Chase above.
*Mikey is ‘posing’ double shaka hand gesture with clean clothes consisting of new tshirt (nicer than ones worn to court twice ) colorful long shorts spanking white tube socks and various sledge hammers to his right in photo. No doubt one of his ‘Mexican laborers’ (as Patrick calls Mikey’s day employees) was taking photo of “el jefe’.
*Chase looks like he is busy digging for gold dirty tired hot sweating and not up for photos.
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Smacks of classism doesn’t it.
Translation:
Dirty white collar criminals don’t know how to put in an honest days work!
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Baker can’t decide who he’s biggotted against–first it’s people dwelling in trailers (many of whom have chosen a lower overhead so they can pursue other things, like trave, or retirement), then –“white collar” worker?. Actually, given the nature of Mike’s work, he’s kind of in the blue collar category–not that it matters.
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Ignorance is bliss. RB should be extremely blissful. Is that even a word? I don’t know but it sounds good.
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ABC,
Exactly.
He is making the prosecution’s case for them in the court of public opinion.
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Oh, he absolutely is!
It’s also one of the more depressing executions of a campaign for innocence by a family member I’ve seen.
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ABC – gotta say, loved your Snickers comment. Jane – perfect depiction of RB at his keyboard.
Here we are having so much fun. RB is flipping out of his mind. Who had a better day? WE DID!!!!
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Yes we did.
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Indeed we did, Timekeeper. His blood pressure is probably still through the roof.
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Looks like the girlfriend or loving sister has arrived.
Anonymous June 7, 2015 at 8:43 PM
Chase looks pretty freaking sexy in that pic, I might add!
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Um, ew.
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Um, there is not enough alcohol in the world to make that man look sexy.
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No. No, there is not. It just skeeves me out to think that someone who may have committed this horrible crime has admirers. But then, Ted Bundy got married while on death row. Again, ew.
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And Richard Ramirez had admirers and married while on death row. I’m guessing some of those crazy found their way on to Baker’s site.
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Chase told someone not long before his arrest that he usually goes out with much younger, slimmer and more beautiful women. He said several times to this person that his (Chase’s) g/f and a very close female relative of hers were “too fat.” Not nice at all.
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Chase sound controlling and manipulative to me.
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OK. If you haven’t watched the Disappeared show on the McStays in awhile, it is VERY interesting to watch it in light of all that has happened.
For you CW92
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Seeing this video is what started it all for me. Weird, were this case has gone.
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Make sure to start it from the beginning, the link starts it mid way
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I am not much of a drinker of alcoholic beverages…but that wine earlier has got me in an extremely good mood. Here’s to another one just like the other one 🍷🍷Whoo hoo!!
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TKeeper,
I think I will join you.
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Sure, why not? Here’s one for you 🍷
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Why thank you so very much. Virtual drinks have 1/2 the calories, I’ve heard.
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Actually…no calories.
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Timekeeper,
I that case, I’ll have two.
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It’s been a good day tater. (Ron White reference. For those of you who have never seen Ron White check out his youtube videos. The man is hilarious)
Cheers to all.
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Sylvia,
Love Ron White!–if only there could be a mock trial: Ron White/DA—Rick Baker/Defense. Now that would be hillarious.
(And please know, I don’t mean to make light of the real crime and trial–but Baker, he is definitely Fair Game!!)
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“AnonymousJune 7, 2015 at 7:37 PM
Rick, what happened to the blow up mini hammer you had next to Mikey’s picture?
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rick bakerJune 7, 2015 at 7:41 PM
I removed it. Not the same mini murder weapon.”
Welcome to the Twilight Zone.
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Jane,
Yes. And the logic is infallible, as we know.
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Actually, the sighting of the trooper is still qualified–but it would lead you to be positive that it was the McStay’s.
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CW92,
In this show they do identify the trooper as the McStays, so we’ll see.
Beth Holloway sounds like Stephen Hawkins, to me. But that’s neither here, nor there.
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AnonymousJune 7, 2015 at 8:43 PM
Chase looks pretty freaking sexy in that pic, I might add!
http://rickgbaker.blogspot.com
Sandy? Is that you?
No maybe Dierdre has changed focus.
Who are these people?
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And with logical reasoning because this person believes this man is sexy, of course that makes him innocent. NOT!
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Merritt’s about as sexy as Baker. Um, yuck!
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Blech!
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Right, Just Me,
And he’s standing with a shovel in something meant to resonable a grave–no it’s not a grave, but that’s the comparison being made.
Weird.
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Here’s how this is going to work: By my estimates, and with some help from Google, there are about 31,000 people who come to this blog at least once a month. This number is based on IP addresses, which I know can be somewhat unreliable, but the number is still about 31,000. That means that we have assembled a massive investigative force right here, made up of thousands and thousands of citizen investigators!
Who are you kidding baker? Half of these visits are you, probably resetting your ip address multiple times a day, so you can look like you are someone. The rest are people who meant to search for the actual Rick baker, from Hollywood, mixed with your super intelligent followers, which we can count on our hands, and then the rest are likely random people who hear about the McStays & stumble on your blog mixed with people who use your blog for comedic purposes. You have not assembled a massive team of citizen investigators, you’ve assembled a massive team of flipping idiots who can’t figure out what you meant by “bullet points.” don’t you have some huge organic project you can tend to? Better yet, don’t. We need to teach these morons what a bullet point is.
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Oh, and a handful of these are surely princes and princesses from faraway lands, lawyers, detectives, the DA and president Obama
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Tiny URL:
http://tinyurl.com/ouskewa
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Bullet points
-hurt feelings
-kill friendships
-confuse idiots
-make life easier for RB
-won’t teach the difference between making shit up & evidence
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Bwahahaha. Good one.
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Rick Baker
“Now you’re rockin everyone! Keep the comments coming. I will compose into case file in the few days.”
Translation: It’s about time you effing idiots googled the meaning of bullet points and started using them! You made me look like a dumb-ass today and if it ever happens again, so help me God, I will fucking freak! Do you hear me? I WILL FUCKING FREAK!! You stupid morons! When I say bullet points, damn it I mean bullet points. Idiots. God damned idiots. Shaking my ever loving head AND rolling my eyes.
It’s going to take Baker a very long time to live this down. Lol
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*I will compose in to a case file in a few days after I regain my composure and my blood pressure goes down. Assholes.
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*i will compose into a case file right after Becky bitch slaps me and looks up an organic fruit that reduces blood pressure and induces feelings of tranquility.
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Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha. Except the GD, it makes me cringe. Whyyyyyy!
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Sorry if I offended you with the GD, I got a little excited.
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It is soooo funny though!
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Ah hahahaha!!! Oh gosh, you are too funny 🙂 🙂
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Just Me,
I missed that! Thank you for your astute observation.
“I will compose into case file in the few days.”
Ahhh. These gems. Priceless. Every single one.
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Out of the 31,000 super investigative forces that post on a monthly basis, no one could help a brother out? I got you, super citizens of the RB blog!
YOU ARE:
-very welcome
-very slow
-very embarrassing
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LoL. And not one reweet from his 10k followers.
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*retweet
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Seems he wasted his money buying followers. Hahaha!
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fp,
And there never will be.
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I just hope, for the love of Penny, that he asks for parentheses next. I am positive his page views would go to single digits on account of Baker thinking he is better than everyone else using big words.
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Oh no! What if he wants an ampersand? They’ll really be in trouble.
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LOLOL!!
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Oh. Em. Gee. This whole thread. Epic awesomesauce.
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Just Me,
No please, no one ask for an ampersand!!!
We don’t want to hurt their tiny brains.
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The midgets had the bullet thing going for about three posts, then they gave up.
Too much work!! I guess.
It’s so much easier to pull ideas out of your ass, and put them forward with no thought or substantiation–then it is to present an organized theory and back is up with proof.
Most of the posts are rehashing ideas generated before the bodies were even found. And the theories, if you can call them that, are filled with that rubbish that was rampant a few years back–Why did MMcStay remove pics form an FB page?
Honestly people, who gives a flying….?!
If someone removing a pic from FB were indicative of a criminal act, we’d all be locked up. Good grief.
And how lazy does Rick Baker have to be to ask a bunch of strangers to give info on this case, anyway? Baker wrote a book on this case. He’s supposed to be the expert.
That, over there at that blog, is an exercise by the futile.
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Did they ever consider that the photos were set to friends only not removed. Just because they can’t be seen by public anymore…
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I’m the one who made the “Snicker’s” comment! I read here, but have never commented. This could be my last, not really a fan of verbal stoning! 🙂 I feel like a faux celebrity, for at least a few seconds today, ‘cuz one of my mental-midget posts made it to the blog! I am also not a blind follower, by the way. I have no idea if Chase is guilty or not, I would like to wait for more evidence. I am also not a MM fan.
However, I am one of those people who believes that
no one “ever” really knows someone, not even family
members. How many times have we seen a story
where a “loving” couple is taking a nice, scenic,
afternoon hike together, and then OFF you go, over
the edge of a cliff! “I thouuuuuught yoooooooou
luuuuuuuuuuved meeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!”
The End…Literally!
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Off topic, but your comment reminded me of a case where the girlfriend “accidentally” pushed her boyfriend over a cliff. When detectives asked if he said anything during this, she said “Yeah,” he made “a loud annoying scream.” Gives me the shudders every time I think about it.
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Robert Spangler, for example?
NoMyRealName–very funny.
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Maeve, for you – 🍷🍷🍷🍷🍷🍷🍷🍷🍷🍷🍷🍷
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Thank you TIME!!!!
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NotMyRealName
Now I feel a little guilty.
I don’t mean to be unkind when I call others mental-midgets (well, yeah, kind of I do). But there is a method to the madness.
I wish that people would apply more critical thinking to all this. Because as unkind as I might be, when I target those who refuse to use their brain, it is equally, if not more cruel to accuse others of crimes, with no proof or well established reason.
That’s why I point it out.
(And I hate Baker. So there’s that.)
To me a mental-midget isn’t in the DNA it’s in how one applies themselves.
(And did I mention that I hate Baker.)
But I’m glad you decided to come by. I’m not sure I caught the Snicker’s comment, but it’s great when someone comments from the other blog–even if they hate what we are doing.
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The Snickers comment was in reference to a post that I made on the RB blog today. ABC reposted it here @445 pm. If you chose to reread what I wrote, it will make more sense…maybe! 🙂 The entire bullet point “assignment” and RB’s subsequent meltdown…didn’t set well with me…obviously! I understand BP’s, however, not everyone does. Honestly, he’s lucky to get some decent spelling, grammar and punctuation out of me! English was one of my better subjects, but it was along time ago.
AND IT’S JUST A BLOG lighten up! My first post about the infamous bullet point scandal was censored, imagine that. 🙂 I also understand your feelings toward RB…more than you think I do. Even though I grew up on a dairy, I don’t generally follow the herd! If that makes sense!
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NotmRName (haven’t come up with an acronym for that yet),
I’ll look for the snicker comment.
Just an FYI, I am not actually a stickler for correct grammar (I goof ALL the time).
I’m a stickler for using your brain!—thinking about what you post before you post. Considering how what you post might impact another person’s life.
Baker never considers how his posts might impact anyone or anything. He doesn’t even care about those he claims to support, like Chase Merritt. Or those involved in this case, through no fault of their own, who are also young and vulnerable (if Baker considers any of this at all, I’m certain it is only with a design to harm).
It’s OK to say whatever you want, but if you are accusing someone of a crime, back it up with hard facts, and give a good reason–a well thought out reason, for what you are claiming to be truth.
Usually people who are thoughtful, write well. Because when your thoughts are clear your writing will follow.
That’s why so much of what is on Baker’s blog reads as gibberish. Because that’s exactly what it is: pure gibberish. No one has bothered to check their beliefs with facts. Hard, substantiated FACT.
So it’s really NOT the grammar I’m attacking. It’s the thought process behind it–or in the case of Baker and his mental-midget brigade, the LACK thereof.
But welcome. This isn’t an easy group over here on this blog, either. But those posting here, tend to be critical thinkers.
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…or the case where the on and off again girlfriend (who he was trying to break up with) shoots him in the face, and tells the police during the interrogation that, “He was very vain and I gave him the nose job he always wanted!” Wow…
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DOH! Oh my gosh.
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Just in case anyone would like a little RB diversion, for an hour or so, ABC’s 20/20 just aired the story of Shayna Huber last Friday. There are also quite a few online news stories about her bizzare behavior and lack of remorse during the interrogation. She has been dubbed “The Nose Job Killer”. It is very hard to wrap your head around, just like what happened to McStays. Senseless! 😦
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Thanks for that lead NMRName,
I love reading new cases.
I’ll look it up.
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She was actually found guilty, this past April. The jury didn’t fall for the “I shot him in self defense…defense.” She makes Jodi Arias look normal!
My post about the grammar, punctuation etc…was more about R and his response to folks not following his directions. Who knew bullet points could be so “maddening”! There was also someone who gets annoyed when posters use too many !!!!!! I have a dry/sarcastic sense of humor
sometimes and it doesn’t always translate well on paper. And, I have to say, that I thought CW’s, Bea Arthur casting of RB was hilarious! Sometimes you just need a good laugh and I laughed so hard and for quite awhile.
My dog started giving me the, “I’m
trying to nap here,” look!
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Corn,
You (or someone else here) should make a new thread and have everyone post Rick Baker’s lies, then put the results in an ebook published on Amazon with everyone who posts as the author (sound familiar?). Now THAT’S a book I would read. 📚
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I love the idea, Miller!
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Excellent idea, Miller.
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Funny, I was actually working on that very idea.
😉
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Bullet points or no bullet points?
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Ah!! lolol.
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ABC
June 7, 2015 at 3:29 pm
Somehow I can’t see the DA putting together a case against a suspect based out what Eyes For Lies and another internet deception guru thinks.
* Mike Mcstay’s pressers have been subject to TWO EXPERT deception analysis experts that we are aware of. no one else:)
I think we need a Daubert ruling on this.
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I’m sorry if anyone is offended by my dislike of Baker and his followers. But they do not think. Period. They follow him like lemmings and it becomes very clear and funny as hell when he asks them to actually think on their own and not just mouth the words of their dear leader. (There’s that wonderful unintentional comedy)
Being local I’ve watched this story unfold from the very beginning. I’ve never ever felt that Mike and Susan were in any way involved with the family’s disappearance. Quite the opposite. I’ve watched those two shaking and crying and trying like hell to keep it together during interviews. Yes, Mike is not a public speaker. He’s not good with words at all. But to then have his words taken out of context and used as ‘proof’ of his involvement is downright hateful. So very ugly.
On the flip side is Chase Merritt who claims Joey was his best friend with not the slightest amount of sadness in his voice let alone red-eyed and teary as is the case with both Mike and Susan.
The best thing about this blog. We don’t have to agree. We also don’t need anyone to approve our comments. Put that in your pipe and smoke it Baker.
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Sylvia – I completely agree with everything in your post. You took the words right out of my mouth.
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nice avatar, Sylvia
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Thanks, Maeve. The large, beautifully painted sun is inside the classic Rosarito Beach Hotel’s restaurant. It’s one of my favorite places to stop for a meal when traveling down Baja California.
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Nice post Sylvia! It is hateful. Mike and Susan were thrust into a missing persons case. In the beginning, I think they got a lot of their information from Chase Merritt, a guy who said he talked to Joey everyday and shared Joey’s personal secrets. Summer is poisoning Joey? Summer is lying, etc. CPS case? What did Merritt tell them in those first few days when everyone was searching for clues? Susan and Mike were scared and confused and desperate. Maybe they bungled a few things. Maybe Mike isn’t the most eloquent guy in front of a media camera but they don’t deserve to be constantly trashed before any of us know their story. Baker never cared about their personal loss or their grief. He needed to create drama and scandal around his book/blog and Mike and Susan were easy targets. Dan was an easy target too and Baker used all of them to make conspiracies and polarize people. He still is..
I think Baker is beginning to realize though, that his camp is not full of the most deep thinking, tech current people. They aren’t catching on to Twitter or blogtalk radio. Baker is still tied to his blog and he is getting frustrated. He wants to be a social media beacon ..the voice of the McStay murder trial when it finally gets underway. But, how can he attract attention and expand his empire with devotees who can’t even post using bullet points?! Haha!
All of your posts from this weekend are hilarious about Rick and the Bullet points. I haven’t even looked at Baker’s blog yet and I still LOL’d. I’m glad you were here to catch that ray of brilliance in action! Too funny!
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One thing about this blog that is fascinating to me is anyone can post anything yet there have been only a few posts from Baker’s camp. Why is that? Are they afraid they’ll get a mental beat down? Are they really not capable of composing a few sentences without Baker? Are they afraid of being disloyal to their leader? Are they afraid of an ALL CAPS beat down from Baker if they stray? Are they not able to form an opinion of their own? To me, it’s very interesting and intriguing.
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I’ve always wondered about that, too. To me, it shows a lack of dedicated engagement to his blog. Usually, when issues become polarized within a large group (Baker claims to have a large group), opposing camps are inundated with replies. The Stop Rick Baker blog was unmoderated, with few exceptions, for about a year, and I seldom received comments from Baker’s group. I still don’t.
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He commands them not to come here and pay attention to Patrick and his hens. He does this constantly on his blog. WHen I was following him, he would say the same things to me when I would question him based on the truth from the blogs against him. His response was always to “not go on their blogs, and to pay to attention to Patricks hens.” lol
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That means Rick G. Baker would have to sign up for numerous email addresses to post from various people here. Whereas he can simply ‘fake’ responses using anonymous posts on his own blog and then sign back in as himself to ‘approve’ them. It makes perfect sense to me.
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Yep. They do prefer the groupthink mentality. Check this out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupthink
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Sylvia,
That article kind of says it all.
Do you all know where the “drink the kool-aid” expression originated? “The phrase derives from the November 1978 Jonestown deaths…”
And if you know about that event, then ’nuff said.
That’s why allowing for a dissenting opinion is so important. To have your beliefs challanged is a good thing–keeps you honest. If you can adequately defend your position against an opposing viewpoint, then you know your reaasoning is sound. If you can’t….well then you might need to rethink things.
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I was 17 years old when that happened. Cults are fascinating in their own strange way.
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*not to
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He reminds me of the penguins on the movie Madagascar, waving their fins and saying “you didn’t see anything….”
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Troll,
That’s funny.
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So, to address a dissenting opinion that I actually kind of agree with, only….can’t quite figure out what the point was, exactly:
AnonymousJune 4, 2015 at 1:11 AM
To Maeve and friends: This post is for you!
Rick can take care of himself, that is why he has the power over the “almighty” delete button. In fact, this post might not make it through!
However, I am the one who initiated the Motel 6 comment that led to the
thread. Sorry…I’m just a nobody, whose experience was just last week, by
the way! Not sure how many Motel 6’s are doing this, but it is still going on!
So, if you absolutely need to continue attacking someone about this, with your comedic, verbal “slosh” (I have no idea what that means, I just made
that word up) anyway, it should be my turn today! I am also not a “follower”, I don’t always agree with what is posted here. With that said, I asked the front desk person, if it was legal to send their guests DL info to local LE? …..
http://rickgbaker.blogspot.com/2015/06/boycott-motel-6-they-fax-all-guests-dl.html#comment-form
1:11AM goes onto give a list of criteria by which the Motel 6 employee claimed they would give his/her info over to authorities. It included the age of the vehicle one drives, etc. Honestly is sounded a little far-fetched. I haven’t stayed in Motel 6 in years, but I do stay at Best Western, and that’s only a notch above, and I’ve never been grilled, and my ride isn’t all that. And my dog doesn’t fit in my purse.
But to respond to 1:11AM
Slosh is a word. You didn’t make it up. It means “an act or sound of splashing.” If you were intending to insult me, maybe exchange “slosh” with “swill”. I’ll leave it to you to look “swill” up–but “comedic swill” would be much more insulting–or “comedic pigswill”, if you want to be specific about it.
My gripe with Baker’s post wasn’t so much that I am in disbelief that this type of violation of civil liberties happens, only that the article quoted has been updated, and to give a full representation of the matter, the updated article should have been presented as well. The practice mentioned was “officially” ceased. I’m with you on this, though–not sure I buy that.
One of the reasons I find Baker so reprehensible is that I actually work on civil liberties issues. I’ve even worked along side the ACLU. These matters are serious. And the work done around them is important. Rick Baker trivializes them to such an extent, that I believe he does more harm than good.
But thanks for the shout-out.
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Motel 6 sucks. I too prefer at the minimum, Best Western. Just a notch above, but they are pricey enough to keep the riff-raff away. The one time I stayed in Victorville I got a room at the Hilton. While on the phone with the reservation agent he quoted me something like $120 for one night. I must have made a surprised sound because he asked me if that was okay and I replied with “Have you ever been to Victorville?”
My eldest child used to live in Helendale, just outside of Victorville so I’ve spent a bit of time there. But since she’s moved I’ve only been there once and that was to go out to the gravesite and take the track measurements and leave some flowers.
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I know, Sylvia. When I attend the trial I am going to be staying in a motel or hotel, or something–maybe sublet for a month. I was kind of shocked by the rates there. I thought everything would be cheap–apparenlty not.
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Do you think the trial will take an entire month? I was thinking to go for the two days or so of the prosecution’s opening statements. But then I’ll probably want to stay for the defense’s statement also. I can’t be gone for long.
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I think this trial will last, possibly as long as 4 weeks. Maybe less, maybe 3. But given the nature of the evidence, we might have days and days of witness testimony–and if Chase takes the stand–his testimony could last two, three, maybe even four days.
It all depends on who takes the stand.
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Favorite Bakerirte quote for the day:
“The brother is more guilty than a feral cat.”
What does that even mean????!!!
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Yeah really, lol, are feral cats guilty of something? 🙂
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The thread about the topless cop and the revealing photos he posted is a disgusting gabfest. This is a 6-year-old story.
Seems to me Baker’s down to the bottom of the barrel with his SBSD bashing. Plus, he needed something to draw attention away from yesterday’s embarrassing failure of a post.
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Sylvia,
And as it turns out the cop was taking a picture with his own wife. Not the smartest move for a public servant–but certainly not a violation of anyone’s civil liberties!!
This is what I mean about Baker trivializing very important issues. Baker wouldn’t know a civil liberties violation if it smacked him in the face, and deprived him of his own!
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Here is something I can agree with, though:
AnonymousJune 5, 2015 at 10:48 AM
Yes you are a willing pawn.
AnonymousJune 5, 2015 at 1:06 PM
Not a pawn, just a person respecting the laws of this country, in particular, the due process clauses of the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments.
AnonymousJune 6, 2015 at 3:16 PM
Thanks to Charles Ray Merritt the dead McStays weren’t afforded those same rights.
AnonymousJune 6, 2015 at 3:41 PM 3:16,
due process, remember…
http://rickgbaker.blogspot.com/2015/06/am-i-being-used-by-chase-merritt.html#comment-form
Due process, remember RickGBaker? Maybe, since you seem to think it’s so important YOU should respect DUE PROCESS as well. Practice what you preach.
Asshat.
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For any people coming from out of town for the trial and will have a rental car I would suggest looking in to the Redlands area. Another nice area is Loma Linda and it has a teaching hospital so there’s a possibility of renting from a med student who’s probably never home. Stay far away from San Bernardino city, especially the area around the court house. Can’t say enough bad things about that area. If you’re a little adventurous you can check out the Palm Springs area but keep in mind that’s going to be an hour or so away from the court house. There are several really decent hotels around Ontario Airport which is about 30 minutes or so from the court house. If anyone finds accomodations and you want me to check it out just let me know. I’d be more than happy to help out my peeps.
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Thanks for the info. Somehow I’d forgotten where the trial would be. Possibly because it’s all taking so long. The airport is a great idea. I’d be driving my own car. I have some medical issues that make driving from my home to the courthouse difficult. So I would want to be there the night before to get some rest. 30 minutes is doable for me.
It would be great if we all could stay in one hotel. I’d love to put faces with names. Perhaps sitting around a pool with a glass of wine.
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Count me in, Sylvia. Also, if you need any help with your medical issues I’d be more than happy to assist.
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Wondering about taking this idea private. I’d be happy to let Cornelius provide my email address to those that want to meet up somewhere.
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I agree, Sylvia. Once it gets closer to the trial date maybe we can enlist Corn’s help. OR maybe it won’t go to trial and CM will fess up and take a plea.
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Thanks Just Me, I may ask you. Near the airoport was where I was thinking.
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Hi to all
My sister in law owns two properties on W Walnut Ave Rialto. All in total there are 10 bedrooms,she is thinking of renting the rooms out during the trial. She said she would charge $25 per room per night. Do you think people will be interested at all before she starts advertising.
Thank you in advance
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Marilyn – What is the other cross street?
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Marilyn,
Thank you for the kind offer. Will think about it.
This coming together at trial, of strangers who have followed and posted on this case (for years) has all the hallmarks of a truly intriguing Reality Show.
10 Strangers in one house–each with very definite views of the guilt or innocence of the defendant on trial. A trial they have all waited years for….
Who will survive?
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Hi Just me, I am going to give her a call now.
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Marilyn, how long does it take to get to the courtroom from the house? I’m interested. It would be good to carpool also.
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Sylvia- once we take this private we need to discuss this option a bit more. I have some concerns about off street parking in that area.
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I know y’all detest me, but this sounds like too good a deal to pass up? Would you like to have the object of your affection nestled in your very bosoms? Ladies, I can dance too.
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🌑 RB NO THANKS🌑
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I’ll let you sign into my blog while we drink margaritas? I’ll let you make one free post too. As long as it’s not about Chase or Penny. Think of all the inquiring minds you will reach! I am staying at the Motel 6, by the way. For some reason, the roaches don’t come in my room.
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Well, let me think about it. NO! No amount of alcohol would make it okay.
I see what you did there. What a hoot!!
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N Willow Ave is the nearest.
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Thank you, Marilyn.
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While everyone is worrying over at the mental-midget-compound about an officer’s titty-shot of his own wife, Baker quietly took down the CPS post.
Doesn’t make you a good person, Baker.
Makes you a coward and an abuser of the basic principles of the civil liberties of a child and young person, for you to have ever posted it in the first place!
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Yeah Baker…
…tha father-of-the-year award is going to arrive at your doorstep, any day now—just keep hurting and abusing the privacy of children and young people—please, keep letting people see for themselves who you really are.
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Did I mention, I REALLY hate that guy?
OK. Off Baker for awhile. Need to bring my Chi back in order.
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I didn’t know I had it in me to detest a person as much as I detest Baker, then again I’ve never encountered a person such as him. He truly sickens me!
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Just Me,
I didn’t know this about myself, either.
I really don’t spend much time worrying about the bad guys. I’d rather focus on the good. But Rick Baker is in a category all his own.
That he would wish harm on a child, someone just coming into their own in life, that for me was a turning point in my view of this very old, very pathetic man–I feel the way about Baker that convicts appear to feel about child molestors and child killers: We all sin, but brother, I mean you, Mr. Baker your sins are worthy of a little extra attention.
Baker is a failed old man and a shitty father, who is willing to hurt anyone who happens in his path–even an innocent child. And the creepy part of it all is that he does so, not for fame or money, he attempts to harm the reputation of good people, for fucking hits to his ridiculous blog.
Now THAT’s pathetic.
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I went back last night and read the thread about him wanting to relinquish his parental rights, turn his back on his boys, all because he simply could not control their mother. I got so incredibly angry again but most of all I felt so sad for those two little boys that just wanted a daddy.
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New thread here. Sorry it took so long, Limited time and access.
https://cuttingthebs.wordpress.com/2015/06/08/bullet-points-damn-it-bullet-points/
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Great new thread CW92.
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Also, yes the other post I talked about is coming as well. Thank you all for your patience.
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It’s my animal magnetism that brings you back again and again, ladies, admit it. If anyone would like to come over and have a private examination of my bullet points, I’ll be staying at the Motel 5. It’s this knockoff chain I found on Priceline. I know I said Motel 6 before, but I just found this cheaper one that comes with a community jaccuzzi. They give you a gallon of Clorox at the desk when you want to use it. You just pour it all around your body. Like a protective ring of fire.
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Well, now on second thought. That sure sounds like LOTS of fun. Sho nuff. Count me in. Room number??
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Never mind, I’ll just ask the desk clerk for the room where the silver fox is staying. See ya soon.
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Can’t wait. Commenters with analytical skills are my weakness, my downfall. I can’t stop reading them. Like a moth to the blog flame. I read your words and think, “Dayum!” Me think pretty too one day.
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Lawsimee, I am blushing. Can’t hardly wait.
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666. I’m staying in The Kardashian Suite. (One of their distant cousins once o.d.’ed on Twinkies there.)
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It’s my life dream that Rick Baker shoots himself with one of his bullet points or drowns in the bleach filled community jacuzzi.
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